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Old 02 Apr 2007, 11:36   #1 (permalink)
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hay um ya this may have been said but since I'm new ill take a chance.
i was playing halo2 the level were u have to kill the prophet and i even said out loud "get out of aun'vas chair" ten it hit me that tau were primly based on the covenant looking through the codex i saw more similarities like the fact that oshavah is just like the AWOL arbiter etc but yeah i thought how cool is that!
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Old 02 Apr 2007, 11:48   #2 (permalink)
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Despite the fact that Tau were out a couple of years before Halo?
That the Tau are based on manga/mecha style things from Japan?
That the Covenant have Close combat specialists (with something that equates to a power weapon) and the Tau have nothing of the sort.
That the Tau don't use giant spider-robots as warmachines.

Uh, yeh, they're not related at all. Maybe bungie poached some ideas from GW, but I doubt it.
Oh yes, and one TEQ (the chief) cannot wipe out an entire army single handed.
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Old 02 Apr 2007, 11:53   #3 (permalink)
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Shader, although I see where you are coming from, I have to agree with Ravager on all those points. Yes, they have a few odd similarities, but for the most part they are quite different.
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Old 02 Apr 2007, 12:11   #4 (permalink)
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First Welcome to Tau Online Shas-el-shader, can I ask of you that in future you keep the spelling and grammer in your posts at a better standard. It help people read your posts and also puts your point of view across in a much more meaningful way.

Ideas are similar but not the same. The Covenant from Halo operate a higher technological level and see humans as 'barbaric' However they do not share the same utilitarian aspects as the Tau, yet they will assimilate aliens into their ranks.

The use of 'glassing' against worlds, but the Covenant is completely diffrent to the Tau philosophy of pin point strikes and meassured aggression. In much the same way as hordes of Grunts are sent against humans, the ways of combat do not mix.

In terms of vehicles the Ghost is very similar to the Tau Piranha skimmer. However the Covenant do lack a 'tank' which the Tau don't.

All in all I think the Tau are much more 3D compared to the Covenant in Halo and its a shame that the original story in the first Halo got messed up in the second Halo, but then its not my place to comment really.

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Old 02 Apr 2007, 12:12   #5 (permalink)
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yeah thas all i really ment i knew the whole thing about the mecha i was really just pointin out the small stuff like aun va and the vespid im just sayin that its really cool to see stuff like that.
i apologize im really tired but yeah.
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Old 03 Apr 2007, 01:25   #6 (permalink)
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i agree that the tau and the covenent have some small similarities but i dont think the tau are based on the covenent or much of a visi versa for that matter

i think the tau were inspired by a combination of the following

preditor race (from the movies preditor1 & 2 and alien vs preditor) - highly advanced weaponry, prefer stealth and speed as comon combat tactics, consider combat more of an art and relate it to hunting

the grey (the small bodied big headed aliens that are the common description of alien sighitings and have been in loads of movies and tv shows) - highly advanced space craft, usualy use spherical designs, are phisicaly weak but have strong senses

clone stormtroopers (from star wars) - specaily bread to perform better at specific jobs, wear a light partial plated armor overtop of a weaker more flexible mesh ( stong armor covers the whole body except for joints that are covered with a lite armor), forced into specified life style ( pilots can only be pilots and soldiers can only be soldiers)

vulcans (from star treck) - prefer peace over war, see that life is more valuable then almost anything else, act with logic instead of instinct

vehicles and drones ( from the movies terminator 1-3) - the vehicles and smaller drones are almost allways designed with a sort of T shape with smaller weapons on the sides and any larger weapons in the back, most vehicles have a spherical rounded shap to them and very few if any sharp edges

other then that ravager is probably right that allot of the tau weapons and such are based on mecha

(if my grammer and spelling is way off its because the spell check isn't working......strange ??? )
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i agree that the tau and the covenent have some small similarities but i dont think the tau are based on the covenent or much of a visi versa for that matter

i think the tau were inspired by a combination of the following

preditor race (from the movies preditor1 & 2 and alien vs preditor) - highly advanced weaponry, prefer stealth and speed as comon combat tactics, consider combat more of an art and relate it to hunting

the grey (the small bodied big headed aliens that are the common description of alien sighitings and have been in loads of movies and tv shows) - highly advanced space craft, usualy use spherical designs, are phisicaly weak but have strong senses

clone stormtroopers (from star wars) - specaily bread to perform better at specific jobs, wear a light partial plated armor overtop of a weaker more flexible mesh ( stong armor covers the whole body except for joints that are covered with a lite armor), forced into specified life style ( pilots can only be pilots and soldiers can only be soldiers)

vulcans (from star treck) - prefer peace over war, see that life is more valuable then almost anything else, act with logic instead of instinct

vehicles and drones ( from the movies terminator 1-3) - the vehicles and smaller drones are almost allways designed with a sort of T shape with smaller weapons on the sides and any larger weapons in the back, most vehicles have a spherical rounded shap to them and very few if any sharp edges

other then that ravager is probably right that allot of the tau weapons and such are based on mecha

(if my grammer and spelling is way off its because the spell check isn't working......strange ??? )

Dont forget that a "Predator" would much rather take a kill by cutting it in half than blasting it to pieces with its shoulder cannon(whatever you want to call it). And they were freakin beasts who could rip a human in half. They are more CC affiliated so therefor not so close to tau.

And the Tau vehicles and Starships look nothing like your typical round UFO.
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I think, this is what is meant:

Tau and the Covenant

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This may have already been said but, I'm new and I'll take a chance. I was playing Halo 2 (the level were you have to kill the Prophet) and I even said out loud, "get out of Aun' va's chair!" then it hit me, that the Tau were primarily based on the Covenant! Looking through the Codex I saw more similarities; like the fact that O' Shovah is just like the AWOL Arbiter. And I thought, how cool is that?

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Old 03 Apr 2007, 10:06   #9 (permalink)
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I think, this is what is meant:

Tau and the Covenant

Hey,
This may have already been said but, I'm new and I'll take a chance. I was playing Halo 2 (the level were you have to kill the Prophet) and I even said out loud, "get out of Aun' va's chair!" then it hit me, that the Tau were primarily based on the Covenant! Looking through the Codex I saw more similarities; like the fact that O' Shovah is just like the AWOL Arbiter. And I thought, how cool is that?

Actually, when you put it that way, I have alot more patience for this post. Aun'va's chair reminded me of the Prophets' hovering seats - and heck, their wrinkly skin and disapproving nature are annoyingly similar, too.

That being said - though I dislike him, I wouldn't be enthused by a Space Marine beating up Aun'va in close combat.
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The Covenant do have a tank, it's in the single player Halo missions. Fires a giant ball of plasma into the air. But I guess no one plays Halo for the single player (even though the multiplayer isn't very enjoyable, with the corpse-raping and NOOB NOOB U BOTTER). That and everyone (even me) acts retarded when they play Halo online, lol.

Anyway...the whole floating chair thing wasn't unique to Halo, either. I'm pretty sure that's an idea that's been floating around (he he) for a while. Kinda like how warp speed/hyperspace is sort of shared with all the different sci-fi shows.
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