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Old 25 Mar 2007, 06:12   #1 (permalink)
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Default Kroot mercs and Tau, why not? I don't get this...

I have a small conseptual question...

I've read Kroot merch awhile ago and I saw all those cool units. I will probobly start kroot army when I'll free up some cash, BUT question is

WHY tau can't take anyother mercs besides regular kroot squad???

I mean fluff wise they got a practicly military allience... Whats the deal?
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Old 25 Mar 2007, 06:20   #2 (permalink)
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Because the Tau forbit the Kroot from performing those mercenary acts but the Kroot do it anyway. The Tau seem to look the other way and just grumble about the Kroot habits and continued mercenary lifestyle but there is a difference between grudging acceptance and eye turning and actively accepting the help of those mercenaries. The few times the Tau have made use of the mercenary bands of Kroot in the fluff... well things didn't go so well. Fluff regarding a particular water caste diplomat was especially amusing. Since the Kroot got that equipment and those special adaptations during their mercenary careers those bands of Kroot would necessarily not be among those allied with the Tau.

The other is simply balance. If the Tau army with its firepower could call on things like Greater Knarlocs, Knarloc Riders and Shaper Councils with things like power weapons and Eviscerators it would simply be unbalanced and too powerful. The balancing factor of the Kroot Mercs is that they lack serious long range firepower but have sheer numbers and some nice cc units as well as a rather wide array of gear.
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Old 25 Mar 2007, 06:33   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Kroot merch and Tau, why not? I don't get this...

So you can't take a greater knarloc in a Tau army?
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Old 25 Mar 2007, 06:39   #4 (permalink)
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I was thinking tracker and hunter kinders and no power weapons and all that other stuff. Because I don't think this would be over too powered.

About fluff, well I see what u are saying, BUT since they are hiering kroot anyway and they might as well higher hunters/trackers for a particular world where they had alrady fought... But again I don't know ;D

Thanx for reply though.

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Old 25 Mar 2007, 07:59   #5 (permalink)
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I was serious, lol...it's on the Tau FW page for one thing, and it's kroot. Doesn't say "kroot mercs", just kroot. I thought a gnarloc was just one of the beasts on Pech, like hounds or krootox. It costs way too much money for a single model either way, so I don't think I'll ever be buying one.
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Old 25 Mar 2007, 14:08   #6 (permalink)
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First of all, Red_dog, do yourself a favour and use the spellcheck function.

The reason why Tau don't ally with kroot mercenaries was explained by Vash already, but that still leaves the question why they do not have kroot hunters and other more specialised kroot as their auxiliaries. But I think I can answer that.

The units from the kroot mercenary list are, fluffwise, results of the kroot's ability to change their own DNA selectively after ingesting the DNA of other species. However, those specific mutations only exist in the actual kroot mercenary forces, because they are travelling throughout the galaxy and thus have had the chance to meet and eat a lot of different species, species the kroot from the Tau Empire never met because they stay with their Tau allies most of the time.

Thus, only those mercenary bands who ignore the Tau's rule to not work for any other ally than the Tau themselves do include those specific mutations, and they are not going to come back to the Tau Empire. The kroot within the Tau Empire do not have so much diversity, because they did not travel as far.

And btw, rules for knarlocs and the like can be found in IA3. I wouldn't buy it though, it's not worth the rather steep price in my opinion, unless you really love the Tau fluff and want more of it.
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Thus, only those mercenary bands who ignore the Tau's rule to not work for any other ally than the Tau themselves do include those specific mutations, and they are not going to come back to the Tau Empire. The kroot within the Tau Empire do not have so much diversity, because they did not travel as far.
And even if the Kroot travelled back, it would arraise Tau suspicion, and they'd start asking questins, and it all goes down from there.
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because they are travelling throughout the galaxy and thus have had the chance to meet and eat a lot of different species
The way you put it sounds so hilarious..."meet and eat". ;D

Anyway, in the original Tau codex, doesn't it mention in one of the fluff stories that the mercenary kroot do travel back to Pech now and then? I think it also mentions looking the other way, like Vash mentioned.
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Old 25 Mar 2007, 20:19   #9 (permalink)
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They do return to Pech, but not to the Tau Empire. Okay, so this sounds confusing. What I mean is, while the mercenaries do visit Pech and the other kroot worlds in the Tau Empire, they do not announce their presence to the Tau. The Tau do know about them, but they look the other way because they know those mercenaries will probably not fight versus the Tau, and they know it is just the culture of the kroot. Denying their allies their own culture is not the Tau way, so as long as it does not contradict the greater good, it is tolerated.

However, if the kroot mercenaries would make a big deal of it and tell everyone "Look, we don't adhere to the alliance treaties!", that would force the Tau to act against them, as they would otherwise lose their credibility and would never again be able to impose similar terms in treaties with other allied races.
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I was serious, lol...it's on the Tau FW page for one thing, and it's kroot. Doesn't say "kroot mercs", just kroot. I thought a gnarloc was just one of the beasts on Pech, like hounds or krootox. It costs way too much money for a single model either way, so I don't think I'll ever be buying one.
Yes but Kroot isn't very difinitive does it say Tau either?

I haven't had the opportunity to look at the rules and I've heard both ways that it might be possible to use it in a Tau army but I never would use it and I would never allow it in games I would participate in as a simple personal objection. In a Kroot merc army sure but in a Tau army the imbalance would be too great in my oppinion. And of course the Taros Campaign book is horrendously expencive and poorly edited. Unless you have lots of expendable income its not a great buy.
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