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Old 15 Nov 2006, 06:33   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering whether the prefered size for footslogging, pulse rifle toting fire warrior units was 6 or 12 (The obvious 2 choices) or maybe something in between?

2 units of 6 gives me more flexability but a single unit of 12 needs to take more casualties before taking a panic test. On the other hand, if I fail the test for a bigger squad I lose more guys.

Sorry if this question has been asked before. I tried the search function but it seemed to keep coming up with entire pages of posts with 0% relevance.
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 07:22   #2 (permalink)
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This is not an original idea of mine but a multiple of 2 maximises the proportion of models to be kill before the unit is below half strength. This important for both victory points, regroup, -1 leadership mod and claiming objectives.

A unit needs to take 25% or more casualties to take a leadership test thus a multiple of 4 minimises the number of models to be killed before a leadership test, this is bad.

This leaves the options of 6 and 10.

In my opinion a smaller unit is better;
-Claims more objects
-Allows you more choice in targeting
-An enemy unit that is forced to target but a single squad may be forced to overkill
-Less losses due to leadership failure
-As horrible as it sounds, the reality of enemy assaults a smaller squad is more likely to all die or run off hopefully leaving the would be assaulters starting down the barrel of a well sized barrel.

I take units of 6.

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I mix and match in my army.

A few units of 12 and a few of 6. This is so that I dont have to waste any shots at any given unit I fire, and allows me more manouvers if the enemy comes to close to me lines (just leave the 6 man up front and move the 12 man way back)
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 10:02   #4 (permalink)
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2 squads of 6 models in front of the enemy and 1 squand of 12 models in the back ready to annichilate the assaulting enemy squads
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 12:06   #5 (permalink)
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eh, if you do the math the break in squad size effeciency is either 9, 10, or 12. Anything else is a reduction. Use the search function, because there are probably 6-10 threads discussing this going back years.

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Old 15 Nov 2006, 15:00   #6 (permalink)
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I have 2 squads of 14 (12 fire warriors & 2 Gun Drones) & 2 squads of 12 (10 fire warriors & 2 Gun Drones). The Gun Drones act as nice meat shields.
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i'd rather have squads of 12. lots of shots, and since tau aren't uber-marksman (hences the 3 BS) you need a lot of shots to dmg the opponent.

but on the other hand, 2 teams of 6 ea with a markerlight (4bs if they work together) would also be strong. but quite expensive (bout 40 pts extra per squad).

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Old 15 Nov 2006, 17:28   #8 (permalink)
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i like the 12-man squad with 10xP-rifles and 2xP-carbines. the 2 carbines are for the extra pinning tests if an enemy comes in too close. in games i use my FW teams for fire support while my crisis and stealth teams capture objectives and the like.
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for some reason (unknown even to me) I like unconventionl squad sizes and am experimenting with 8 man squads soon, however, the tem man squad is a good choice
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Originally Posted by KCKitsune
I have 2 squads of 14 (12 fire warriors & 2 Gun Drones) & 2 squads of 12 (10 fire warriors & 2 Gun Drones). The Gun Drones act as nice meat shields.
How are the drones "meat sheilds" when they cost exactly the same number of points as a firewarrior and have the additionally liability of being removed if the shas'ui is killed?

Personally I don't much use ground pounding fire warriors but when I do i favour the 85 point squad - 6 firewarriors, shas'ui, markerlight and hard-wired target lock.
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