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Tau Military Advisor name - let's vote!
View Poll Results: Which of these Tau names should we use for "Military Advisor"
Shas'O'Tol'B 3 13.64%
Shas'O Suam'B 1 4.55%
Shas'O Ar'Shas'B 1 4.55%
Shas'O Ar'Suam'B 9 40.91%
Shas'Ar'O 7 31.82%
Shas'O'B 1 4.55%
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Old 30 Oct 2006, 00:41   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tau Military Advisor name - let's vote!

Hey, based on this thread we have a number of suggestions for Tau Military Advisor. Basically, it's simple. What would the Tau call a military advisor? This would be a sort of rank, so it shouldn't be too hard. However, we've gotten a lot of suggestions! What do you think:

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Shas'O'Tol'B

Shas'O Suam'B

Shas'O Ar'Shas'B

Shas'O Ar'Suam'B

Shas'Ar'O

Shas'O'B
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Now, a little explanation. Ar = high, as in important for example. Shas/Suam meaning Fire Caste or military, flame (which is better?). Tol means command. We all know O - the highest rank attainable within each caste. B means shepherd, but a shepherd is really someone who guides others; hence the connection with the advisor rank.

From this we see that "Shas'O Tol'B" would mean "highest rank fire caste command guider" while "Shas'O Ar'Suam'B" would mean "highest rank fire caste high-flame (miltary) guider".

I am sure you will get the essence of these different suggestions yourselves

Cast your vote; a little explanation wouldn't hurt either!

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Old 30 Oct 2006, 02:52   #2 (permalink)
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Shas'ArSuam'B was my choice, because it just sounds cooler than the other ones (in my opinion)
 
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Shas'O'B sounds like a rapper.

You down wit' Shas'O'B?
Yea, you know me!
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Old 30 Oct 2006, 03:39   #4 (permalink)
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Shas'ArSuam'B was my choice, because it just sounds cooler than the other ones (in my opinion)
hehehe, thats why i picked it too.... ^-^
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Shas'ArSuam'B was my choice, because it just sounds cooler than the other ones (in my opinion)
sounds better in english too.
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Yeah "high military guider" sounds good in my opinion, too

More votes people? The more the better!

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Old 30 Oct 2006, 11:03   #7 (permalink)
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For those of you who don’t/can’t be bothered with translating…
(Olannon some sign of correct interpretation would be nice)

Shas'O'Tol'B
‘Fire Caste Commander Command Guider’

Shas'O Suam'B
‘Fire Caste Commander Fire Guider’

Shas'O Ar'Shas'B
‘Fire Caste Commander High Fire Caste Guider’

Shas'O Ar'Suam'B
‘Fire Caste Commander High Fire Guider’
('Fire Caste' is different to 'Fire'. 'High Fire Manipulator?&#39

Shas'Ar'O
??? ‘Fire caste High Commander’ (I think your order of words is wrong as ‘Shas’o’ is a rank not part of a name)

Or do you mean ‘Shas'O Shas'Ar'O’
‘Fire Caste Commander Fire caste High Commander’

Shas'O'B
‘Fire Caste Commander Guider’

Note: 'B' is translated as 'Shepherd' but a shepherd is a guider, makes sense.

I don't think the name Shas'Ar'O follows the pattern of Tau names as it is not prefixed with a 'caste rank' So would it not be ‘Shas'O Shas'Ar'O’?

If this is how the name should be correctly interpreted i think it makes the most sense out of all of them, because 'shas' does not literally translate as fire, so why fire is part of the name doesn’t really make sense in my opinion. 'Shas' is translated as 'Fire Caste'.

My vote is for 'Shas'O Shas'Ar'O’, so on your vote list that’s 'Shas'Ar'O’.
'High' meaning over that of battlefield command.
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No - think of Shas'Ar'O as being the next rank above Shas'O so to speak, so therefore, Shas'Ar'O makes perfect sense as "Fire Caste High Commander"
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...So we've created a new rank in the Tau system?


I doubt that would go down well. To quote Calmsword;

"It does mention in both codex's that the older Shas'O are admitted into high councils and play a larger role in the Empire rather then leading excursions. There is no rank specifics and i would recommend that the title of adviser merely be apart of the O's name."

I would agree with this, that any extra rank would be part of the O's name. The 'Shas'O' is the 'Caste Rank' before the name so Olannon should have left them all as; Tol'B, Suam'B, Ar'Shas'B, Ar'Suam'B, Shas'Ar'O, Shas'O'B

Of course these 'Adviser Ranks' would be written after the 'Caste Rank' but before the 'Commander Name' For instance if we take Farsight, his full name and rank would be 'Shas'O Shas'O'B Shovah...'

The Tau naming system is very logical as everything is stated, the caste, the rank, the first naming, the second naming, the third naming, etc. It does not vary from this system and each section is separate from the other. You cannot add extra sections to parts of the name which are out of syntax place.

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Not a new rank as such, its no higher placed than a Shas'O, but by the designation of 'Ar' shows that they are an advisor, or councilor for that caste, rather than an active leader. Think:

Shas'O - Shas'Ar'O
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Shas'El
|
Shas'Vre


Its no higher in rank, but it differentiates between a commander that is in active service, and a commander that is an advisor/council member.

Part of the problem may be the Ar part, as it means high, so the literal english translation would become Fire Caste "High" Commander. Pity, I always prefered Shas'Ar'O...
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