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The Devilfish wont work against necrons...
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Old 01 Jan 2005, 14:50   #1 (permalink)
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Default The Devilfish wont work against necrons...

I recently got thrashed vs a tau patrol force using the tactic you call fish of fury....but i think i know how to stop it...any unit you decide to attack is going to be able to get back up again so just lept the fishes with gauss wepons, use destroyers to use their speed go round the back and balst rear armour...and finally scarab swarms are small enough to fit underneath devilfishes (i actually checked this!) so surely they can assault the fire warriors from under it!

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Old 01 Jan 2005, 14:55   #2 (permalink)
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HERESEY!!!!


Oh what.....?

Damn......in hindsight necrons would blow a hole in ya' theres got to be a way to counter them...like landing....
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Old 01 Jan 2005, 14:56   #3 (permalink)
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if you have landing gear then your guys cant fire under the tank can you because it wont be a skimmer!
 
Old 01 Jan 2005, 14:57   #4 (permalink)
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The problem with scarabs is that they may not be within 1" of the fish and therefore they cannot assault below it.
The tactic people call fish of fury are good but not unstoppable. To put too much effort in stopping it though might kind of being to bite your own tail. There are other good and dangerous Tau units as well...
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Old 01 Jan 2005, 15:02   #5 (permalink)
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why cant they be within 1" of the fish, they just travel under it...they move like they have jetpacks you know? and as for taus other good units! im afraid that necrons will just get up again to all of them! (ok i lost my first battle vs tau cause he used FoF but now i know how to stop it!!!hehehe)
 
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I assume you play necrons zayford?

ok, models may not under any circumstances move under a skimmer.
The FoF like any Tactic has flaws, most of these only result from careless setup by the Tau player, but 'Crons give any Tau army fits when played right. the flaw in the necron plan against the FoF and by extension Tau is that once your destroyers and wraiths are gone you have no maneuverability and this the FoF player can concentrate 100% of his remaining army into one squad due to superior movement and is then assured that squads destruction. but if you take too many jetpack squads it becomes easier to phase you out. its a close called game and relies on the skills of the player for the outcome. 'Crons however do stand the best chance.
scarab swarms are weak against blasts, you know what makes a blast? the HH's railgun. what do you see in every tau army? you guessed it .

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Old 01 Jan 2005, 15:26   #7 (permalink)
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hmm, does it actually say that in the rulebook? plus how will you deal with gauss wepaons? you cant! they can actually fit so why shouldnt they be allowed to assault under the fish???why??m scarabs moving into cover can not always be seen by submunitions....just face it, tau arent really made for killing hard hitting, long life units like necrons.
 
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it just is. I dont have a page ref. (can someone dig it up?) but thats the way it works.

as I saud 'Crons give Tau fits, but they are handles quite easily with a bit lot of luck and some tactics.
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Dizzy is right but you don't need to care since they use the jet bike rules.
Unfortunately, I have never met a skilled Necron player since it's only the younger and more inexperienced who plays them around here so I have never seen how tough they are in an actual game.
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they use the jet [glow=red,2,300]Pack[/glow] rules, so they dont get 12"move then assault ;Dthey get 6"move then assault, which should put them on top of the Fish ....... not working, but yes it does require a lot of care and thinking to get it right as one slip up can bugger you.
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