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Commander Shadowsun- good or bad?
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She is horrible, and I wouldn't take her if somebody paid me 8 53.33%
She is good, but I wouldn't take her 4 26.67%
She is bad, but I might take her 2 13.33%
She is horrible, and I wouldn't take her if somebody paid me 1 6.67%
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Old 13 Jul 2006, 13:56   #1 (permalink)
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Default Commander Shadowsun- good or bad?

I want to know if I should get Shadowsun once I get a 1500 point army.
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Old 13 Jul 2006, 14:50   #2 (permalink)
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I use Shadowsun but she is only good is either you can advance her really quickly or use her to help a firetrap with her fusion blasters. She is good leading offence forces of stealth suits she is also good in combat because of her stealth feild and her good ws
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Old 13 Jul 2006, 15:04   #3 (permalink)
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Her "goodness" really depends on how you interpret her rules. Is she an IC with her Drones? Can she be shot at if she's not the closest unit? Can she join other units? Can she infiltrate? Her rules are very poorly written.
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Default Re: Commander Shadowsun- good or bad?

I quite like the model itself, after watching the Tau Commander teaser video for Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, I'm seriously considering getting and converting the model to something similar to represent my Commander.

But as for the rules - it does have some issues as T0nka pointed out, that make it a rather poor unit. Drone IC/Squad issues, lack of Deep Strike or even Infiltrte, that all the other Stealthsuits have irks me.
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Old 13 Jul 2006, 20:22   #5 (permalink)
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i would just use the model as a shas o
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Alright in my oppinion the model is awesome, the rules are downright aweful. They just have tons of holes that limit her uses. If she could join other squads, if she could be taken without her drones, if she could be given missil pods, if, if, if too many ifs. From simply what her rules say or what they simply dont allow she cannot join other squads, can be shot at when not the clossest, she cant infiltrate, or deep strike. Thus she becomes a pricey fire magnet if she tries to get close and an expencive support unit if hidden. Either way not that great. Id use her model to represent a very cool Shas'O but I would not use her rules.
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I'd take her because she is very cost effective.
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Old 14 Jul 2006, 12:03   #8 (permalink)
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It all depends on how you like to play, but her model is awesome .
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Old 14 Jul 2006, 13:43   #9 (permalink)
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the model is great.

her rules are pretty decednt, ansd she's a great tank cracker. still, her best use is leadership for a static-heavy army. ld 10 for any unit with a model within 18" of her. take an etherial, and your line will not break!!!


that said, i'll buy her, and convert her, but i won't use her for one glaringly obviousreason her fluff is ridiculous.

she led a tau fleet (first mistake - a shas'o leading a kor fleet?!) and destroyed a tyranid splinter fleet without the loss of a single ship!? absolutely ridiculous, unbelievable and unrealistic. total n00b fluff. she's not as bad as the incredibly stupid and even more ridiculous aun'va, but its still dire fluff.
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Special Characters are generally not worth their value in points. I'd say this is true of about 98 percent of special characters regardless of army (I'm fond of Lysander, that's about it).

Shadowsun's problem is that she isn't an independent character until her drones die, she can't infiltrate, and she has a 12-inch range... These things combine to make her a godawful waste of points because she's not going to get enough shots off.

I think she sucks on toast (which is more than I can say for Aun'Va).

If you're just now getting up to a 1500 point list, play it a different way than trying to make her work for you. You'll find her very frustrating.

I personally refuse to buy even the model because I'm boycotting GW's godawful playtesting of these special characters.
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