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Does the markerlight help against Grey Knights?
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Old 13 Jun 2006, 12:08   #1 (permalink)
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Default Does the markerlight help against Grey Knights?

Hi there..played against gray knights the other day and of course i have to roll 3D6 everytime i try to shoot at their troops and elites just to see if i see them... well, i hit a terminator squad with 3 markerlights and i was wondering...would these markerlights help other tau units in "seeing" this squad or do i have to roll 3D6 again for every tau unit. thanks!
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Old 13 Jun 2006, 12:14   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: does markerlight help against gray knights?

mklights only help against night fight.

night fight isn't involved here, no help
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Old 13 Jun 2006, 16:15   #3 (permalink)
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Mmm...
I don't know, I think that the shooting is aimed towards the laser mark, not the knight.
You shoot to the reference point given by the marker, you sure see that point in your helmet viewer.

Same situation, but you fire a seeker.
The seeker is going to hit, no 3D roll.

And what if is Tau vs Tau, and you mark a stealth unit?
Roll or not roll?

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Old 13 Jun 2006, 17:37   #4 (permalink)
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The marker light rule say you get to ignore "the effects of the Night Fighting rule". Neither stealth field generators or The Shroud are or use the Night Fighting rule. In a friendly game do what you want, but for tournament play the rules are quiet clear.
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Old 13 Jun 2006, 22:27   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Does the markerlight help against Grey Knights?

Ah, my friend, here I beg to differ. In the stealth field generator rules, it stater " check their spotting distance br rolling 2D6x3 as if firing at night" It acts as nightfighting, and therefore the markerlight has effect. Furthermore, if it mentions this the the Grey Knight dex, it would therefore count as nightfighting, and thus the markerlights would have effect!
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Old 13 Jun 2006, 22:32   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Does the markerlight help against Grey Knights?

Shrouding is nothing to do with Night Fight - they are seperate and thus Markerlights don't effect them.
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Old 13 Jun 2006, 23:17   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Does the markerlight help against Grey Knights?

Ok, but what about a seeker missile?
It does not roll for anything, just follows the marker light.
The marker light "sees" the GK, so the seeker.

I'm completely convinced that when you shoot at a target market, you don't shoot to the target, you shoot al the marker.

But well, I ask again: what about the seeker?
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Old 13 Jun 2006, 23:27   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: Does the markerlight help against Grey Knights?

I don't see what the big deal is here. All the material is pretty much given to us already.

v4 FAQ, Daemonhunters

"Special rules that interact with Night Fighting conditions (searchlights, Acute Senses, etc.) do not give any bonus against the Shrouding."

-- That would include markerlights, obviously, as they trigger off night fighting rules to be used (ie: to make sure you see them without testing).

Q: What about Seeker Missiles?

A: Seekers only fire via Markerlight. If the markerlight can see the Grey Knight, the Seeker can hit. If not, no seeker--pretty simple.

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Old 14 Jun 2006, 00:22   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah, Mal pretty much nailed it on the head.

Fluffwise, markerlights wouldn't make sense anyway. How does an oversized laserpionter help other people see a cloaking device?
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Old 14 Jun 2006, 00:24   #10 (permalink)
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It's not realy a cloaking device, it's much worse - the Grey Knights use their psychic abilities to shroud themselved from view. Or to make them as bright as miniture stars, if you prefer being blinded by their glory to being blinded your eyes not working.
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