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Old 23 May 2006, 08:25   #1 (permalink)
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over in the "new tau piranha" thread there were a few theories as to the naming of tau vehicles by the tau. i decided that i should start a topic about them because i think this is important to all converters and story writing people out there.


I believe the letters and numbers are the tau's classifications and the names such as crisis and broadside and devilfish and hammerhead and skyray and piranha and tigershark and barracuda and blah blah blah are all imperial names (as we know).


as suggested by somebody (sorry their name was really long to remmeber ill edit credit later) the XV battlesuits should be named Xar'Vesa
now Xar'Vesa i like alot, because vesa means 'help, helping, assistance' and all those, and lets say Xar means 'armour, suit' or something like that.

for all of those unaware, the new piranha was dubbed the TX-42 by forgeworld

XV-suits
TX-vehicles
AX-aircraft
__-interstellar spacecraft

does this make sense? (AX comes from forgeworlds tigershark AX-1-0)

but should the X mean the same thing in each??

we allready know from the tau empire codex that the first number represents weight class, or chassis type. and the second number basically means 'role' as in 'prototype'.
i also think that the second number could be more then one digit, in the case of FW's braodside XV-88-2.

an example of the devil fish would be TX-7 (70 is the real number, but like the XV-80, the zero is ignored, like in our decimal numbers.. i did this to explain why XV-8 only has one number)... the hammerhead could be TX-75 and the skyray could be TX-79.. TX says that it has the devilfish chassis, and the other number notes the role or type it is. (5 for ion head, 6 for railhead?? maybe)

maybe someone should come up with an official classification code?? proper names and such. just a theory.

may i note that i believe the tau have a octal number system, meaning 0-7 (8 digits in total) this is fluffy seen that they only have 8 fingers (including thumbs) and we have a decimal system 0-9 because we have 10 fingers. basically this just means that they count like this..... 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21 and so on.
if you have trouble converting from the two, microsofts calculator in scientific mode allows you to do so real easy.

just an idea peoples. ill leave it with you guys
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This does make sense, however, what about X meaning Experimental, as the AX-10 was a prototype, as is the TX-42. Just an idea.

I know Tau use base 8, so what about the XV-89?? Damn, even the best laid plans....

If, sticking with what we know, the first number is mass class, then should not a devilfish, hell even a pirahna have a larger one than a suit? Damn, another hole, unless the vehicle ones are a different weight.

I'm not trying to pick holes in your ideas, honest, they just happened as I was typing. I like this idea.

So:

Xar-Vesa - I like Xar to mean Crisis, or something like it, so we have effectively "Help in a crisis". This would, I believe work quite well.

TX - Hmm, lets see. We can't use Xar, as it is crisis (for the purposes of this post) so we need something like Armour Support/Armour Unit/Armoured Vehicle, so looking at the lexicon I see that there is nothing of use so: Teres(Armour/Armoured) Xa'lan (vehicle). What do you think, obviously, change if you have something better!

And the Aircraft is easy, as that is AX (Air Vehicle) so it should be Kor-Xa'lan (bugger!). Therefore, we need something that can represent air, aircraft, flying, that begins with A. A quick look at the lexicon, does not alas help, so how about using maybe Aeres-Xa'lan, meaning I dunno, something to do with flying vehicle.

Well, I tried, and this is so far the best I can come up with. Good Idea about starting this topic.
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This does make sense, however, what about X meaning Experimental, as the AX-10 was a prototype, as is the TX-42. Just an idea.

I know Tau use base 8, so what about the XV-89?? Damn, even the best laid plans....

If, sticking with what we know, the first number is mass class, then should not a devilfish, hell even a pirahna have a larger one than a suit? Damn, another hole, unless the vehicle ones are a different weight.

I'm not trying to pick holes in your ideas, honest, they just happened as I was typing. I like this idea.
nope nope, i quite like holes, gives me something to fill.

well we can assume that for the purposes of this theory, that FW were unaware of the whole base 8 number system. or we can assume they convert the numbers for us.

XV-89 would infact if we were to convert them (since 8 technically is 10) is XV-10-11.

nope the weight class, OR chassis class, is dependant on what the first two letters are. so weights are only relevent to the same types of units. (when i was thinking about it, this did come up in my head, but i sould have made it clearer.)



XV-Xar'Vesa
TX-Tenna'Xar'ra
AX-Aeres'Xar'yan

ok, Vesa we already know means "help"
Xar, still unofficial (well it will never BE official as such but yeh) im going to say it means something like 'armoured, mechanical'
Xar'ra, im going to say means 'armoured vehicle, machine transport' and the addition of 'yan means space able...
(i got this from the sept D'yanoi, which translates to "twin moons" assuming the D means twin. yano would mean moon, the addition of i making yanoi the plural.... assumptions at best. but since moons orbit a planet, im assuming yan means orbital, or satelite... and since AX crafts are low orbit and interplanetary spacecraft, i thought this to be appropiate.)

its not perfect i know. and im open to more suggestions, i suck when it comes to making up words that even sound tauish, let alone meanings for them.

for the Tau'va my friends
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Cool ideas. I'm not great at making up Tau sounding words, although there are members here who are *cough Wargamer cough*

It would be nice if it were official.

The chassis class for a vehicle would makes sense, Giving us the TX (Armoued Vehicle) 4 (Light Skimmer) 2 (Prototype) for the pirahna, and AX (Aircraft) 1( Heavy Flyer/Bomber Class) 0 (Umm, not sure...)
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just thought of something.
drones are called Kor'Vesa right?

KV for the gun drones, sheild drones and marker drones and sniper drones.

KV-31: gun drone
KV-35: sheild drone
KV-36: marker drone
KV-40: sniper drone

and maybe the heavy gun drones from forge world, KV-62 or soemthing.

what do you guys think, FV for mr. greydeaths crayfishies, crabs or whatever, all those walking drones, Fio'Vesa??

jst brainstormin guys. even if theyre not that greater ideas.

also to add, as an example ill use the Crisis suits name.
XV (this is the units name, signifying type of unit.)
8 (this is the class of the unit)
0 (this is the role of the unit, however if it is the standard versian then this number can be left out)

so when we call a braodside the ex vee, eighty eight, we shouljd actually say the ex vee eight, eight... open to interpretation i suppose.
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