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Old 20 May 2006, 14:57   #1 (permalink)
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Is this a good combo on a Tau Crisis Shas'el commander:

Shas'el @ 100 points:

Cyclic ion blaster, Airbursting Fragmentation Launcher, Targeting array, Hard-wired Multi-tracker.

The CIB and the AFL both are good for killing troops and they have the same range. I want to know if it would work. I know I am wasting the good BS on the AFL, but the CIB becomes really effective with the higher BS.

I know that there are several other topics floating around on this subject, but I would like to know if it would work in my army.

My list looks something like this:
Shas'el
Fireknife
Fireknife
6 Stealths
12 FW with devilfish
12 Fw with devilfish
Piranha with fusion
Piranha with fusion
Railhead
Railhead
Ionhead

Please help me out.
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Old 20 May 2006, 17:40   #2 (permalink)
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Is this a good combo on a Tau Crisis Shas'el commander:

Shas'el @ 100 points:

Cyclic ion blaster, Airbursting Fragmentation Launcher, Targeting array, Hard-wired Multi-tracker.

The CIB and the AFL both are good for killing troops and they have the same range. I want to know if it would work. I know I am wasting the good BS on the AFL, but the CIB becomes really effective with the higher BS.

I know that there are several other topics floating around on this subject, but I would like to know if it would work in my army.

My list looks something like this:
Shas'el
Fireknife
Fireknife
6 Stealths
12 FW with devilfish
12 Fw with devilfish
Piranha with fusion
Piranha with fusion
Railhead
Railhead
Ionhead

Please help me out.
The question you should be asking yourself is whether the AFB needs to go on the Commander. It is just as easy to upgrade the Shas'ui in one of the Crisis teams and stick it on him. Since you are paying quite a bit for the Targeting array, I would make sure that both of his weapons can make use of it.
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Old 20 May 2006, 18:35   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is this a good combo?

The problem is not if it's useful (it is pretty darn useful), but is it an effecient use of pionts (like what Khanaris said).

AFB takes advantage of cover and low BS. If you use this, then the CIB becomes quite piontless when you are behind cover.

However, the CIB takes advantage of high BS. That said, the amazing BS of a commander + TA (if you use Shas'el) is wasted. Also the ability to fire in cover is waste.

But, if you use both, it will make a nice (if not massive) dent in hordes.

May I suggest that you use: CIB, burst cannon, TA and HW MT. 90 pionts.

That generates 8 shots. At the commander's BS you can expect to hit 6.67 of them to hit. That could cause the same damage as the original commnader yet it costs 10 less and gives you the option to the AFB on not so good BS model.
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Old 20 May 2006, 19:44   #4 (permalink)
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As far as I know, that suit is NOT 90 points.

However, a CIB+Plasma+Multi-Tracker Shas'El is.
With better range and even more Anti-MEq power.
The 7 shots at Rapid-Fire range is still awesome against horde's as well.
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Old 21 May 2006, 15:21   #5 (permalink)
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As far as I know, that suit is NOT 90 points.

However, a CIB+Plasma+Multi-Tracker Shas'El is.
With better range and even more Anti-MEq power.
The 7 shots at Rapid-Fire range is still awesome against horde's as well.
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. I was using piont values that I have on top og my head. I din't have the Codex with me at the time.
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Old 21 May 2006, 17:28   #6 (permalink)
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I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. I was using piont values that I have on top og my head. I din't have the Codex with me at the time.
I'm sorry if I offended YOU. I wanted to make sure my math was right actually since I don't have the new Dex and could very well be wrong.

Ah, the internet and the misconceptions therein.
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Old 22 May 2006, 01:07   #7 (permalink)
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I do not believe it is right to do that. Since the AFL is a barrage weapon, it does not use BS. Better to make use of low BS of a Shas'vre than to put it where another weapon would benefit more. It is the same reason IG players put Flamers on BS2 Conscripts rather than their standard BS3 guardsmen or BS4 stormtroopers.

Instead, I would use these two configurations.

Shas'el: CIB, PR/MP, TA, HWMT
Shas'vre: AFL, PR/MP, MT
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