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Old 09 May 2006, 14:32   #1 (permalink)
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Sitting bored in French class today, I came up with this possible idea for a modification of the fish of fury.* What it entails is using two piranha as flankers for your devilfish, extending the "exclusion zone" of no movement further out.* If I'm correct, this should make it very difficult if not impossible for basic troops (6" move, 6" assault) to hit your fire warriors.* The piranha, with their drones and Burst Cannon/Fusion Blaster add to the firepower.* I ran a few numbers and came up with this.

Fish of Fury here is a warfish with 10 FW.
Normal FOF- 27 shots.* 13.5 hit, 9 wound, 3 dead marines.

Piranha Fish of Fury- "frenzy fish" if you will.
37 Shots.* 18.5 hit, 12.333 wound, 4.111 dead marines.

That's with Burst Cannons, and 4 of those shots are pinning.
With Fusion blasters, the dead marines increase to 4.277.
That's something- against 3+ saves, the Fusion blaster is better than the burst cannon.* Slightly, but it's better, and has much greater tankhunting capabilites.

Another possible use I see for this tactic is transport popping.* You zoom up, pop the tank with your fusion blasters, then hit the entangled troops inside with the rest of your shots.

What do you all think of this idea?* Could it work?
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Old 09 May 2006, 14:43   #2 (permalink)
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It most certainly can work and I for one intend to make something like it work. Ive been trying to get ahold of piranhas to add to my mech force for a while now and I fully intend to test out such tactics when I get them. Its frustrating to have my Firewarriors cought in assault with clever movement but another couple skimmers in the way should fix that and the extra tank hunting and termi killing power of the fusion blasters wouldnt hurt either.
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I actually did something like this the yesterday.

It works really well with even one pirhana. Deploy the firewarriors out one side of the fish, drop the pirhana in front of them and they're blocked from assault on 2 sides.

Depending on the terrain you can totally stop an enemy unit in it's tracks.

Then it's just a matter of the rapid fire death.
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Unfortunately the Piranha is a lot easier to bring down than the Devilfish. So then you're just a difficult terrain role away from being caught in assault again.
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I would say it depends on how much you want to see the piranha after this tactic is used.

It, of course, could work very well, and be a massive annoyance to the enemy. After a few games it could also be a distraction that the enemy can't get out of his head. It could buy you some extra time to deal with other problems facing your army.

I can see it becoming a very good tactic and distraction at the same time, which makes it especially good.

I wish I had paid that much attention in French class; I'd be a master Jedi by now. lol

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Unfortunately the Piranha is a lot easier to bring down than the Devilfish. So then you're just a difficult terrain role away from being caught in assault again.
Though the pirhana's front armour is immune to bolters.

Just some food for thought...
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Unfortunately the Piranha is a lot easier to bring down than the Devilfish. So then you're just a difficult terrain role away from being caught in assault again.
Doesnt really mater if the target squad shoots down the piranha they cant assault the Firewarriors. If something else shoots down the piranha you have difficult terrain in the way and the tank chasis and unless they roll a 6 the chances of them actually catching you in base to base and assault are slim and the Piranha has front armor 11 which bolters cant touch which leaves only a handful of weapons in any given marine squad which can deal with it and to actually bring it down plasma or plasma pistols would do well to rapid fire which means no charge. So the possibility of the enemy actualy assaulting you with the piranhas in the way are very slim and much, much better than without the piranhas... always assuming there is a target left to assault after being hit by the concentrated fire of Firewarriors, warfish and piranhas.
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I certainly think it is a valid tactic. Clearly the piranha is easier to bring down, but since both are skimmers and lilkey both will have moved over 6", they nt that much different in survivability. Different, but not drastically so. A bold tactic that poses risks, for you and the enemy.

I like it even beter when you use it with a few marker hits. Your favorable result potential increases.

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Not to mention, this would (to me) be a secondary role for my Piranha- primary being flanker/tankbuster. I'd trade a 75-some-odd piranha for a full marine squad any day, plus I believe I still get the two drones (or at least a chance)
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The only real problem with the tactic is that it involves exposing and utilizing to their full extent over 350 points worth of easily blown up vehicles and fairly fragile infantry to take down a measy 4 marines, with a points total of only 60.
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