[vsurma]

Basically I can find nothing in either the BGB or the new tau dex that says that I cannot take 2 singular weapons of the same type.

It does say that where there are 2 different costs that the first on is for 1 weapon and the 2nd for TL.

It also says 1 weapon counts as 1 system and the TL counts as 2 weapons systems.

No where does it say that you cannot take 2 singular weapons systems on a suit and no where does it says that 2 of the same weapon system become Twin linked.

So word for word the codex ALLOWS you to take Super deathrains with 2 missile pods, 4 missile shots per suits!

Or better yet 2 plasma rifles on a suit! mmmmm rapid fire=4 plasma shots....tasty.

Don't get me wrong, I think its 90% sure that this was not the designers intent....but screw them they messed up!......(or did they, perhaps they want us to have this)

[fuby]

"No model can pick the same item twice..."

[Scizor]

hammerheads can.two burst cannons,but its a vehicle so not the same thing

[khanaris]

Bingo. Mystery solved. I wish people would do a little more research before pulling all these little back-door exploits out of the new book. The major changes to the Tau list were all well-discussed. Don't expect any drastic changes that weren't noted in the development articles.

[kaskal]

could have sworn the dex said that if you took two of the same weapon it counted as T.L.

[Aarhus]

Originally Posted by Khanaris

Bingo. Mystery solved. I wish people would do a little more research before pulling all these little back-door exploits out of the new book. The major changes to the Tau list were all well-discussed. Don't expect any drastic changes that weren't noted in the development articles.

First of all, the mystery wasn't solved because a rulebook was not cited properly. One can give quotations all day without giving reference. I could say "Albert Einstein was the first person to discover the world was round" to a bunch of first graders, and chances are that they'll nod in agreement, not knowing any better.

Where does it say that 'Einstein discovered the world was round'? If you spout quotations without reference, it's useless.

Also, vsurma seems to have done some research before "pulling all these little back-door exploits" (Khanaris - Tau Online, 03/24/06).

Basically I can find nothing in either the BGB or the new tau dex that says that I cannot take 2 singular weapons of the same type.

Until someone points out the specific place in either the BGB or the parent codex, then this mystery isn't solved.


Cheers,
Lawrence.

[vsurma]

Yea I would like the page reference please.

[Tallon Karrde]

There are 3 hard points on a crisis suit. Given that a TL weapon takes up the 1[sup]st[/sup] and 2[sup]nd[/sup] hard points. You can not take the same weapon in the 3[sup]rd[/sup] hard point. That covers that loophole.

"...and the second is for two weapons (counting as a TL weapon of that type)." p.25

I hope that answers your question.

[khanaris]

Originally Posted by Tallon Karrde

There are 3 hard points on a crisis suit. Given that a TL weapon takes up the 1[sup]st[/sup] and 2[sup]nd[/sup] hard points. You can not take the same weapon in the 3[sup]rd[/sup] hard point. That covers that loophole.

"...and the second is for two weapons (counting as a TL weapon of that type)." p.25

I hope that answers your question.

Thank you.

Also, vsurma seems to have done some research before "pulling all these little back-door exploits" (Khanaris - Tau Online, 03/24/06).

While I appreciate referencing the big book, we don't all have copies on-hand. My advice is go through your own codex thoroughly before starting to "rules-lawyer" the new codex. We already had one thread blow up regarding the Devilfish, and I would rather keep the confusion regarding the new rules to a minimum. If something was not explicitly noted as a change, you should be very careful before assuming GW just dropped it in without comment, or that they made a mistake you can exploit.

[Aarhus]

My quibble wasn't about "rules-lawyering", my quibble was with mis-quoting.

Although there's a great chance that one can be correct when he/she quotes, without reference it is meaningless.

Any college/university student understands this.

That's all my post was about. I also didn't intend on having anything blow up, just ensuring that those who quote, quote properly.


Cheers,
Lawrence.