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Old 09 Mar 2006, 01:13   #1 (permalink)
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Do frag grenades work on stealthsuits during assaults?

I mean do they both attack at initiative 10.
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As far as the old codex goes (I don't own the new one because I'm a loser and live in the US of A) you can't give Photon Grenades to stealths. Tau don't have "frag" grenades, that's a Marine thing .
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no i mean if someone is assaulting the stealths with frags. do the stealths lose their "count as being in cover"?
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Thats not what hes asking.
I dont think frags override the stealth field, because they work on units IN cover, not units that count as being in cover. (I dunno, Im at my cousins house so no rulebook)

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I think he is asking: Do frag grenades work on stealth suits like they work on cover when assaulting?

It's a tough one but I think frag grenades will work on stealth suits , allowing the assaulting unit to hit simultaneously.
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I don't think so. Just think. Frag grenades lure things out of cover so they can be attacked without them having an advantage. Since the stealthsuit would still be stealthed even if they need to move, it would not work on them. I might be thinking too fluffy, but sometimes only common sense and fluff can answer the toughest questions.
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I always just thought that the exploding grenades would overload the stealth field and reveal the team for a short time allowing the assaulting unit to find their target.
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Frag grenades don't lure things out of cover. When somebody is lobbing anti-personnel grenades at me I generally don't LEAVE my cover. Assault takes into account things like close range shooting and grenades.

The frag grenades ARE the attacks, in the round of combat which you charge in. You have a vague idea of where the enemy is, you lob in some frag grenades. That IS what you do for your attack for that round. 40k is a game of simplifications. (even though you would still get to use special weapons like power fists and weapons.)

I would say they do work. The opponent has a vague idea of where the stealthsuits are and would throw the frag grenades into that area before charging.
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If they were used for combat, then why don't they do damage? They don't give any combat enhancements, just affecting who goes first. In every FPS with grenades in it that I've played, the enemies run away from grenades. I chucked a grenade over a low wall and the enemies ran out of cover into my crosshairs. Same concept in 40k.
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Just for simplicity's sake. Let's say frags do work.
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