[Natanael]

I did a little (like 4 seconds) bit of thinking about the famed FoF and it occurred to me that we could just as easily bring the Hammerhead into the equation... This would be especially helpful for those times when you can ONLY bring one mounted unit of FW to a gunfight.

Imagine the 2 Fish Fury move, but 1 Fish & 1 Hammer. IH or RH, it doesn't matter. For the RH, pie-plate the target squad first, then paste whomever survives with SMS, DF weapons & pulse fire.

For the IH, same concept, but obviously you fire the ion cannon first.

Has anyone tried this? (BTW, I also posted this on ATT's boards)

[Kid A]

It would expose the broadside of your Hammerhead to the enemy. That's why I wouldn't try it. I would use the Hammerhead for Support from behind and wouldn't expose it to the enemy's crossfire.

[Natanael]

Yeah... good point, but we're doing the same with the Fish... maybe I'll try it one day when I have no other choice...

[LiinSivi]

And the side armour of the HH is the same as the front armour of the DF, yet we're fine presenting that. I've used this tactic before and it seemed to work well. Plus the extra heavy fire power right there is great. Just make sure the other guy doesnt have anything that's going to get extra D's against vehicle armour and you should be good.

~Liin

[Natanael]

cool! Someone who has tried it, I presume?

Cypher on ATT basically uses his tanks to make the Fury maneuver even wider, thus negating the threat of Fleet of Appendage rolls. And of course, it adds a heck of a lot of punch to the maneuver to be able to unload from a HH into the same shoot-fest.

As a side note, I checked out the many Tau Glossaries/dictionaries online... surprisingly, "Fish", "Fury", "Hammerhead", "Ray", and many other Tau unit names/types aren't listed! :

I think Fish of Fury would sound cooler if it were something like "Sho'an ka" or something similarly Tauish. (No need to applaud... My made-up Tau words aren't that inspiring) :P

[kapow ur dead]

They would be more likely to appear in an Imperial Glossary, as these terms are actaully Imperial Designations for Tau equipment (Devilfish, Hammerhead etc.)

It would be nice to know their proper names though.

[Auno Lissta]

It would be nice to know their proper names though.

I call a HH a Cal'foiar and a DF a fioar, korar means spaceship and Cal means hard so hard ground ship is the big tank and ground ship is a transport. As for Hammer of fury... I'd use it as final option kinda thing, a Hammerhead can cost upward of a hundred points, a miscalculation and you could be exposing it's soft rear bits to a missile launcher.

[AdeptPaladin]

Originally Posted by Natanael

Imagine the 2 Fish Fury move, but 1 Fish & 1 Hammer. IH or RH, it doesn't matter. For the RH, pie-plate the target squad first, then paste whomever survives with SMS, DF weapons & pulse fire.

For the IH, same concept, but obviously you fire the ion cannon first.

Has anyone tried this? (BTW, I also posted this on ATT's boards)

I'm new here.. but doesn't that seem to be a bit of a waste of firepower? If the pieplate wipes out the squad, why bother following up, in which case the HH is now out on it's own and asking to get shot up.

My thoughts would be first to take the DF, dismount and rapid fire the FW. If anything is left, the DF joins in to help reduce it. Lastely, use the HH to pummel everything else in the area (support units, etc). Helps the FW stay alive longer (less in the area to counter-attack) and prevents any assaulting.

[Gempalm]

unfortunately FW even at rapid fire range tend not to wipe out they´re targets...

i think using a hammerhead instead of a second fish is a perfectly viable tactic.

as long as you wipe out the threat or use the flanks wisely you don´t have to give the side armour to your enemy. just remember to fire the FW first as any smart opponent might just remove the front models and leave you unable to rapid fire with FW.

[Impulse]

A hammerhead is a good choice only if you equip it with the Fusion Cannons. Getting into such extreme range is not the best choice when you are with a railgun.