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Old 01 Mar 2006, 16:11   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tau in siege defence mode.

the thought occured to me the other nite that the Tau may not be well served by thier total reliance on shooting to survive a siege.

Imagine this. Imperial guard forces have a hunter cadre pinned down in a mountain fortress.

Imps have had several thousand years to perfect thier siege tatcics.

Tau defenders cut off from resupply have to make due with what ammo they have.
When that ammo is gone what would a Competent commander do with how his army has been trained?

Other thoughts stray on how many shots each battery disc holds for a standard pulse rifle. How can these be recharged in the field if possible.
Mabey solar? jumper cables off a devil fish? or mabey a charger in the devil fish. Even a Crisis suit may be of use to recharge pulse weapons.

Just a thought.
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Old 01 Mar 2006, 16:41   #2 (permalink)
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tau dont do seiges it say so in the codex. they may lay seige to some thing but they dont try and hold ground thats left to drone deffences.

it is though that the back pack of a fire warrior may by a small plamsa or fusion reactor which charges the gun packs. a suits probley runs off a simalar method same with the fishes.
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tau dont do seiges it say so in the codex. they may lay seige to some thing but they dont try and hold ground thats left to drone deffences.

it is though that the back pack of a fire warrior may by a small plamsa or fusion reactor which charges the gun packs. a suits probley runs off a simalar method same with the fishes.
But what if they get caught off guard and can not get away. It is a more what if type of question. There is some sort of seige story in the old Tau codex involving Aun'shi and a group of fire warriors isn't there.
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Old 01 Mar 2006, 17:06   #4 (permalink)
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But what if they get caught off guard and can not get away. It is a more what if type of question. There is some sort of seige story in the old Tau codex involving Aun'shi and a group of fire warriors isn't there.
sorry i should have said that they dont do seiges on purpose meaning they dont build keep and castle like places they try and keep as mobile as possible
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Tau rely on mobile warfare, and in that, they excel. However, they have not the numbers for a war of attrition. That said, they are still well-trained and well equipped. So long as they are not too heavily outnumbered, and so long as their supplies hold out, they can endure.

If they run into specialist siege-crackers like the Krieg, or worse yet, the Astartes, they're dead.
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Well that more or less awnsers that then.
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the thought occured to me the other nite that the Tau may not be well served by thier total reliance on shooting to survive a siege.

Imagine this. Imperial guard forces have a hunter cadre pinned down in a mountain fortress.

Imps have had several thousand years to perfect thier siege tatcics.

Tau defenders cut off from resupply have to make due with what ammo they have.
When that ammo is gone what would a Competent commander do with how his army has been trained?

Other thoughts stray on how many shots each battery disc holds for a standard pulse rifle. How can these be recharged in the field if possible.
Mabey solar? jumper cables off a devil fish? or mabey a charger in the devil fish. Even a Crisis suit may be of use to recharge pulse weapons.

Just a thought.
how will they get cut off? they face an overwhelming imperial ground pounding advance, they retreat to the mantas, and nder a barracuda screen hit high orbit. tau do not do last stands. they will not head for helms deep.
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how will they get cut off? they face an overwhelming imperial ground pounding advance, they retreat to the mantas, and nder a barracuda screen hit high orbit. tau do not do last stands. they will not head for helms deep.
One Warlord Titan is all the Imperials need to ensure that the Mantas never see the mothership again... a Missile Destroyer cannot hope to engage a Battle Titan.

Plus you are assuming the Tau have fleet-supremacy... what if they don't? To remove the whole "why doesn't [y] bomb [z] from orbit?" lets assume both armies have their fleets duelling elsewhere. No support is coming for weeks, if not months. It's all down to the ground troops.

Tau are screwed without supplies, and a serious manpower advantage.
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I think the Tau fight smart enough not to get cought in those situations unless they are meet with a far more superior force.

For example, the new codex has Shadowsun making cordinated strikes against a hive fleet and not take any casualties.

Unlike the Imperials who are always constantly on the defensive, the Tau are able to identify threats and come up with adaptive responces to get out of those situations. The above mentioned Hive fleet might adapt to Shadowsun's tactics but the Tau will come up with something new.

That is there strength as a fighting force lies, there ability to adapt, develope new technologies, and use their reasources to the most effiecent use.

Basically a Tau force that finds themselves in that situation screwed up and will pay for it in their lives.
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tau dont do seiges it say so in the codex. they may lay seige to some thing but they dont try and hold ground thats left to drone deffences.

it is though that the back pack of a fire warrior may by a small plamsa or fusion reactor which charges the gun packs. a suits probley runs off a simalar method same with the fishes.
Not all sieges are by choice. say a long range patrol Devil fish is shot down, what gear that FW team has is all they are gonna get. How long will thier ammo hold out.
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