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Old 22 Feb 2006, 18:47   #1 (permalink)
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i am buying the box set out on first april (cant wait) and want to use the FoF tactic against marines. Its only a 500 point battle and wondered if it is safe? I hope to get my brother (opponent) into 40k (my marine army) so i dont want to cream him just secure a minor victory against him. Would the FoF make me loose in a small game or would it be ok?

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Old 22 Feb 2006, 18:52   #2 (permalink)
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A mounted unit would be useful but don't try pulling off the Fish of Fury with such a large portion of your army at risk in such a small game. Take them in a Devilfish if you want, but don't try it unless he has a small and expensive unit on it's own or you want to risk doing it down one of his flanks.
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Old 22 Feb 2006, 18:52   #3 (permalink)
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It can work pretty well in a small game, simply because your opponent will not have many units to support whichever one you choose to attack. I wouldn't use it with a minimized squad of Fire Warriors, though. The Devilfish is not a scoring unit, so you need to maximise its usefullness. My normal 500-point army is something like a full Devilfish squad, and static team, and a Shas-El. There is something else too, but I forget what it is. Probably a Broadside. I haven't played 500 points in a while.
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Old 24 Feb 2006, 16:22   #4 (permalink)
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My current 500 point list is as follows:

Shas'el with twin missile pod & plasma

9 fire warriors
devilfish

6 fire warriors with carbines

hammerhead with railgun

That gives me a FoF, and mobile pinning unit, and supporting fire crisis suit, and big gun.
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Old 24 Feb 2006, 19:03   #5 (permalink)
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6 fire warriors with carbines
I like that list coolflame, but the aformentioned unit of 6 FWs with carbines isn't legal...yet.

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Old 24 Feb 2006, 19:27   #6 (permalink)
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Just ask your opponent if you can play with the new ruling before each game till the codex comes out, and its usually not a big deal.

For my full size army ill probably be upgrading the carbine squad to 10 man, to give it a little morestaying power.

BTW one very nasty unit, is 10 carbine equipped firewarriors bodyguard for the ethereal, gives you 10 STR5 pinning shots with BS4 a turn, for only 70 points extra!
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Old 24 Feb 2006, 20:10   #7 (permalink)
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I've wanted a 10-12 size FW squad with all carbines for a few years now. The new rapid fire rules dimmed the desire a bit, but I love the thought of an all carbine FW squad. I have toyed with the idea of a full 12 plus 2 gun drones.

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Old 24 Feb 2006, 22:24   #8 (permalink)
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Whilst 6 FW's may be enough to cause a pinning every turn, i find the unit is a little fragile, so i would go for units of 10, as it has enough bulk to take some casualties, yet is still relatively small and mobile.
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