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Old 03 Feb 2006, 17:58   #1 (permalink)
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Default Hammerhead - ion or rail against necrons

My main opponent plays necrons, and I'm currently building my force around an army to mainly verse his. Looking at the hammerheads, I made some oservations. Upon first glance, I thought due to the WBB rolls, the rail would be better, boy was I wrong. The numbers mentioned are the amount of models that would wound per turn:

Rail Ion
C'tan 0.28 0.33
Lord 0.55 (insta kill) 0.83
Dest. Lord 0.55 0.67
Pariah 0.55 1.67
Wraith 0.19 0.28
Tomb Spyder 0.55 1.33
Scarab 0.55 1.67
Submunition 1.1
Immortal, Warrior, flayed one, destroyer, heavy destroyer all
0.55 0.83
Monolith 0.13 (bye bye) Impossible

It seems that against everything but a monolith, the ion cannon is the much better option statistically, and the most versatile. However, I'd always keep 1 railgun because when have you ever seen a necron amy without a monolith?

This isnt really a question or anything, but I wanted to share my findings.



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Old 03 Feb 2006, 18:02   #2 (permalink)
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Although I didn't have any HHs yet, but the Ion would be better against those necrons. More shots and nice AP makesion a better choice I say.
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You can't instant kill Necron Lords (shame on you GW!!! >) if he takes a Destroyer body.
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 20:47   #4 (permalink)
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For 30pts. I don thitnk most necron players realise quite how good they have it! wouldmean you could forgoe the more expenive res orb in some instances, lol. darn it!
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It depends on how lucky you get. The Railgun has the potential to really stuff up Necron squads. It just dosen't always fulfill that potential. If you have sold your soul to the Dark Gods for talent at dice, than take the Railgun. If you like a nice predictable kill ratio with nothing left to chance, take the Ion Cannon.
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 21:54   #6 (permalink)
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but A skyray would shine here ap3 intsant death goodness

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Old 03 Feb 2006, 21:57   #7 (permalink)
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Run the numbers again for a railgun submunition shot against a squad of warriors (or flayed ones, etc). You only need to cover 9 models with the template (or 11.25 for the T5 models) for it to be as effective as the ion cannon. If your opponent likes to cluster his troops together to keep them within range of a resurrection orb, you could conceivably get double that number under the template.

In a month's time, though, the obvious choice of tank to take against Necrons will be the Skyray. 4-5 insta-kills on the first turn...

Edit: Corrected numbers for submunition effectiveness.
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 22:09   #8 (permalink)
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I don't know about T5 vs submunition. I had my foot lord and his 10 immortals (11 T5 models) and had the submunition hit all of them (just veiled to melt a charging devil fish into submution). I lost one model, then he failed wbb.

The railgun is much better vs scarabs. Scarabs can really hurt your T3 troops.

I currently do not bring a Resurrection orb vs tau. When a skyray shows up I think I would bring one, but you never know.
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I can't believe submunition against scarabs causes that few wounds. Even against a fully spread out squad you're bound to roll near enough partials to equal the ion cannon.

I just tested out how close together a perfectly clustered squad should be. 21 models fit in 3 circles, with NO partials! That's amazing...
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But in realitiy, most smart Necron players would space out their swarms (As a Necron and Tau player I know this.)
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