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Do Mech Tau Fire Warriors need Shas'ui? (And Hello!)
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 05:36   #1 (permalink)
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Default Do Mech Tau Fire Warriors need Shas'ui? (And Hello!)

Hello all,

Lets talk about me!

I have been out of 40K like 2.5 years now. But as with all addictive things (like beer), I have decided to come back to it. So hello to you all!

1st army was, like most people, Vanilla Space Marines (2ed). It was a mixed force heavy on shooting.

2nd army was Orks, lots of fun with this army in 2ed with Squig guns and want not. But my Boar Boys got neutered in 3ed so I moved on.

3rd army was Chaos Marines, no vehicles, just marines and demons. Mainly Papa Nurgle and The Changer. When you put that many marines on the table a lot of people just stair in wonder. This was/is my favorite army to date.

4th and last army was Necrons. But after about 7-8 games with my Necrons I was really boarded with them and sold off all my armies. <Cry>

Any way I have decided to put together a Mech Tau Force because it is unlike any army I have ever built before. Fast and on the move! So I searched the web and found the War Seer forms and through the War Seer forms I found Tau Online. So here I am! Another N00B Tau Player ready to give all you experience general's bad names by lowering the bell curve.

I have been ghosting these forms for a few weeks now and have come up with a question that is not covered (at least that I can find) in the extensive how to guilds that I have read. So finally to that question…

Do I take Shas'ui in my Fire Warrior squads in a Mech Tau Force?

My main concern is that my Fire Warrior squads will spend a good deal of time in there transport and thus be immune to leadership tests. Thus I don’t need the extra leadership. I plan on taking 2, 12 man squads in Devilfish.

Current I have convinced my self that I need the Shas'ui for the extra leadership. Is there a hard and fast rule for this or is it like so many things depending on the situation and the general.

Thanks!

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Old 03 Feb 2006, 05:50   #2 (permalink)
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[size=7pt]Oh great gods of depression, steal away this NOOB's impossible optimism and make him into a jaded nerd like the rest of us[/size]

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Do I take Shas'ui in my Fire Warrior squads in a Mech Tau Force?
It's probably a good idea. LD7 is kind of low...
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 05:54   #3 (permalink)
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 06:14   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forums and the Greater Good. You've certainly seen most of the field! I am sure you will enjoy playing Tau.

I like to take Shas'Ui in all of my Fire Warrior teams, mounted or not. The jump from LD 7 to LD 8 is actually quite significant, and is definitely worth the points. It is very important for mounted Fire Warriors to be able to return to their transports before they are reduced below half strength. Anything that keeps them on the table is a good idea. On top of that, it makes the unit a little more fun to model and paint.
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Hail Shatter Song!

You're not really a noob; far from it; you're from 2nd ed! Soon you will be smiting the enemies of the tau in the name of the greater good.

I always take a shas'ui for my fw squads, even when mounted. Smaller squads being mounted are ideal; 8 or 10 fw's are a smaller, and less risky, investment in the fish, while still packing quite a punch. upgrading the squad with a shas'ui ensures that they will get back in the transport after recieving a peppering of return fire from their foes.
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 15:11   #6 (permalink)
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yeah you have been playing 40k longer then I have!

For mech tau help go to this site :
http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/%7Eleebj/index.html

It has a the facts on mech tau.
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 15:17   #7 (permalink)
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yeah you have been playing 40k longer then I have!

For mech tau help go to this site :
http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/%7Eleebj/index.html

It has a the facts on mech tau.
Hey good one vaderhader. That site is good.

And you have totally beat me in the time you started playing 40k. :P
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Old 03 Feb 2006, 18:03   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input all!

Looks like every one is in agreement. So I will take Shas'ui in my Fire Warriors.

Good stuff on that web sight Vaderhader! Thx.

Now all I need to do is get use to the fact that my army is so small.


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Old 03 Feb 2006, 18:03   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input all!

Looks like every one is in agreement. So I will take Shas'ui in my Fire Warriors.

Good stuff on that web sight Vaderhader! Thx.

Now all I need to do is get use to the fact that my army is so small.


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No prob dude.

By the way, how small is your army?
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I never take Shas'ui. I believe in the "run like a girl" theory of Tau. Anything that keeps my models in base contact during CC is a bad thing. I want to let a couple of figs die, then fail my leadership test so I can "RUN!"

FW and kroot for me are just ways to make the enemy stop in the open so the Crisis, stealth and HH can shoot them down like dogs. It is just my style.

Once my FW disembark, they never return to the fish.

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