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Old 30 Jan 2006, 06:39   #1 (permalink)
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does anyone have a theory on how military command works within the Shas? are the O's elected somehow and do then they pick their subordinates, and if this is the case who does the electing. don't say the Aun because they are advisores, and all fluff indicates they actually have very little to do with military dispositions.
how do the air caste work into the overall plan

for this discussion lets say a human world like Nimbosa is being invaded
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Old 30 Jan 2006, 06:51   #2 (permalink)
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Each of the casts probibaly has a council of elders advised by the etherials ho make these desisions. Other wise its field promotions for the lower ranks.
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Old 30 Jan 2006, 07:33   #3 (permalink)
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they go from FW to Crisis suit then body guard then commander

then if the commmander is fully pro he gets to join some sort of council
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1- it's a council of all the Shas'Os of the sept presided by one Ethereal from that sept.
2-The Shas'la elect the Shas'ui, the Shas'ui elect the Shas'vre,they elect the Shas'el and the Shas'O are elected by the Shas'el.
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Old 30 Jan 2006, 13:49   #5 (permalink)
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1- it's a council of all the Shas'Os of the sept presided by one Ethereal from that sept.
Aka: The Shas'Ar'Tol. This ruling body acts as a "rear line" command force, and arranges all aspects of the Hunter Cadres.

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2-The Shas'la elect the Shas'ui, the Shas'ui elect the Shas'vre,they elect the Shas'el and the Shas'O are elected by the Shas'el.
Yeah... right.

Shas'la are born into their role. They become Shas'ui when they prove themselves to possess some skill at command, or potential to go further as a specialist (eg: Xar'vesa pilot).

Shas'vre are veterans, and begin training for full-Cadre command. A Shas'vre may indeed gain command at this point.

Shas'El is the first "Command" rank. They will command a full Number Cadre (eg: a 4-Cadre, or a 6-Cadre).

Shas'O command multiple Number-Cadres.


Promotion is dealt with by superiors... or in the case of a Shas'El rising to Shas'O, probably the Shas'Ar'Tol itself.
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Wargamer is correct but a side note on Etherials. The Aun do have final say in all matters, all of them. However the Aun do not abuse their power and thus will usually act as chairmen, advisors and tie breakers in decisions. So for instance the Aun may indeed help decide the advancement from shas'el to o though ranks prior to this are probably not worth such scrutiny and handled by the immediate superiors and latter approved by the Ar'Tol or high command of each caste.

As for assignments each commander is probably assigned to a force by the Ar'Tol or an etherial but likely has free reign in their own organization, such as deciding squad sizes, equipment, tactics, defence layouts and evacuation/retreat plans, allocation of resources and the ranks and commands of those under the Shas'el/os command.
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Old 30 Jan 2006, 15:40   #7 (permalink)
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or maybe the ethereal observer has even less to do with it- in two examples when the ethereal has died the Shas have not given quarter to their enemies, which is customary, so perhaps the ethereal is there to ensure that the Shas don't kill all of the foe.
besides that- the question i think deserves clarification, the coalition armies are typically from three major septs, who decides if there are two Shas'o in charge, i would imagine there is a proffesional rivalry between Sacea and Viorla
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or maybe the ethereal observer has even less to do with it- in two examples when the ethereal has died the Shas have not given quarter to their enemies, which is customary, so perhaps the ethereal is there to ensure that the Shas don't kill all of the foe.
besides that- the question i think deserves clarification, the coalition armies are typically from three major septs, who decides if there are two Shas'o in charge, i would imagine there is a proffesional rivalry between Sacea and Viorla
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The Shas do not give quarter because the Etherial died, not because an Etherial is absense. It is the death of the Aun that they are avenging. However there are unorthodox and vicious commanders like Darksight was it? Who will slaughter the enemy either way. So I suppose it depends on the Shas'O but the no quarter is usually the result of a relentless firing assault to bring retribution for the death of the Aun.
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you have a point- it was Brightsword by the way and the Koloth gorge massacre on Nimbosa. i think it might be Shas'o from each sept involved and then, well, then maybe they compare records or the Ethereal and the Fio and Por discuss which would be the best for leading the coalition- let me ask more solidly, how do you think Shas'O R'myr god his charge, there were multiple Shas'El involved in Taros, so does that mean that Shas'O are from a single sept and are then assigned to a coalition of Cadre's with no identicly matched O' if this is the case then the idea of using a shas'o is a little like using an ethereal (rare fluff wise)
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Looking at Fluff from Firewarrior I do not think that cadres let alone entire forces are from one sept. The only case for this might be the planets actual defence forces. Instead we see Tau from many different septs in a single squad. Thus the Auns and Shas'Ar'Tol would not look at septs or origin much when identifying who to place in charge of each campaign. As remember the Shas'Ar'Tol has Shas'O from everywhere.
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