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Old 10 Jan 2006, 21:57   #1 (permalink)
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My friend and I had a match a few days ago without armour piercing cause he likes it that way, I wanted to play AP as his carnifex has a 2+ save, and its a rule. So we decided on both, but we rolled dice to see which one we did first. No AP match first. I lost, but barely. I managed killing everything but his fex, which I toyed with for several turns before it killed me. You dont know how mad your opponent gets when you use the jetpacks to move back and forth, shooting, and then run, while the fat fex pants behind you. We played the AP match today, he died in two turns. I would have won anyway, but it irritated me that he just sat there doing nothing cause he had to play AP. He didn't move an inch through the whole match.
No battle reports or anything, just some annoying stuff. Anything like this happen to you guys?
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 22:04   #2 (permalink)
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Your friend should not be playing this game... AP is a huge part of balancing or attempting to balance things in 40k, if your friend has a serious problem with USING THE CORRECT RULES try use the fantasy armor rules (which I actually kind of like better) otherwise, without any way to break armor, things with 2+ and even 3+ armor saves are rediculously overpowered...
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Amazing how people with 2+ and 3+ saves winge about AP... whereas people who play 5+ save armies, and so 90% of the time don't get Armour Saves, never say a word... :
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 22:18   #4 (permalink)
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Just tell him that you're cool not having AP so long as you can consider all hits as wounding...

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Old 10 Jan 2006, 22:26   #5 (permalink)
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Agreed. Armour penetration is not an optional rule. Never let someone talk you into ignoring the rules of the game, especially those that penalize them disproportionately. A Carnifex with a 2+ invulnerable save would be defensively balanced only if it cost somewhere over 1,500 points.
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 22:32   #6 (permalink)
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I did it once, and only once. Im not gonna do it again, I hated it, and I kicked his butt when playing AP.
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Old 11 Jan 2006, 00:04   #7 (permalink)
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people are odd sometimes.
I read a post about some guy being persuaded to play against his friend's Necrons without using the Phase Out rule...

whatever next?
tyranid armies not being allowed to use Fleet?
Iron Warriors not being able to use the shooting phase?
the abolition of dice?
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If he really wanted to play without AP then it would be fair to completely remove armor from the game entirely. No armor, no need for AP.
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Old 11 Jan 2006, 00:11   #9 (permalink)
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people are odd sometimes.
I read a post about some guy being persuaded to play against his friend's Necrons without using the Phase Out rule...

whatever next?
tyranid armies not being allowed to use Fleet?
Iron Warriors not being able to use the shooting phase?
the abolition of dice?
I dont think this really fall under the category of "odd" but more of, "people are egotistical a-holes who dont care about any thing but winning and will cheat/lie/bribe to do so" It would be interesting seeing a necron army try to play without WBB though.
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You dont know how mad your opponent gets when you use the jetpacks to move back and forth, shooting, and then run, while the fat fex pants behind you.
You have no idea how many games I played with my old nid army where that exact same thing happened agains t a local tau player. Either that or a walking tyrant
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