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Old 09 Jan 2006, 23:51   #1 (permalink)
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Default Commander Farsight...

I think Commander Farsight is pretty much worthless. 170 pts is very expensive. The model may not be all that bad... as it does provide CC. But honestly... for 170 pts I can almost buy a full squad of Stealth.

Not to mention that you cant use alot of things like Kroot and Hammerheads (ok maybe just 1... but I use 3). I really think that this guy is a joke. What do you think?
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Old 09 Jan 2006, 23:56   #2 (permalink)
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I think Commander Farsight is pretty much worthless. 170 pts is very expensive. The model may not be all that bad... as it does provide CC. But honestly... for 170 pts I can almost buy a full squad of Stealth.

Not to mention that you cant use alot of things like Kroot and Hammerheads (ok maybe just 1... but I use 3). I really think that this guy is a joke. What do you think?
Commander farsight can still use hammerheads to full he has no limit, and he can increase a models WS and Initiative by 1 for +5 pionts per model and he fights as a monsterous creature AND has 2D6+5 armour penatration on a melee attack with the dawn blade!! >
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 00:03   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Commander Farsight...

That is not true, Farsight CANNOT use the following:

Etherials, Gun Drones, Kroot, Kroot Hounds and Krootox.

He can only use 0-1 (meaning up to 1 but no more than 1) of the following:

Stealth Teams, Pathfinder Teams, Hammerhead Gunships and Broadside Battlesuit Teams.

That means that he will never be able to fill his heavy support and will be limited to only 1 if you try to do a mechanized Farsight army. This is why he is not used very often as most players find the limitations just too limiting. In smaller games he is fairly good but when you get into higher points levels the limits really hurt. Tau cannot pack special weapons into infantry squads and spread out their weaponry as much as almost every other army can. Thus we need our heavy support to really provide our only solid heavy support. Without it we have no heavy weapons and are reduced to medium and short ranged anti tank weaponry thats assault classed. It is a difficulty normally but with Farsight it becomes almost crippling unless you know what you are doing and most players just dont seem to think its worth it. I wouldnt mind fielding a Farsight Enclave list and dont think I would have problems winning with it but I like my tanks.
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 00:18   #4 (permalink)
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Farsight is a good choice if you are trying to build a suit-heavy list of no more than 1,500 points. That is what he excels at. As has been stated, though, he is not a good choice if you are playing a larger army or not planning on including many Crisis suits.
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 00:25   #5 (permalink)
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we have several "Farsight is bad" threads. Here, I even did the searching for you!

http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=11823.0
http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=1252.0
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 00:51   #6 (permalink)
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you can use Heavy V'8 teams and allot of fire warriros
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 00:54   #7 (permalink)
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Yes and thats what tends to happen. However to have a chance of taking out the heaviest of enemy armor the suits have to get close and even in a Farsight list that is a risky thing as Tau really do not do close combat. Farsight is good at it but it would not be wise to go throwing an army of ork fighter suits into close combat. Even then they still arent great and few in number.
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 00:57   #8 (permalink)
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The new codex will open up the possibility of usings the Farsight Enclave in large battles. Assuming that the rumor stating that a Farsight Enclave HQ can get 7 bodygaurds, it opens the possibility to have a total of 25 Crisis suits on the field. I dont care who you are, thats just frightening.
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any number of v'8 bigger then 5 will scare people
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 01:08   #10 (permalink)
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Using Stealth, and Hammerheads is a nescessity for me. Perhaps thats why I think this guy is worthless!
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