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Faolin 08 Jan 2006 03:41

Importance of Deployment
 
How important do you guys think deployment is? Is it of win-or-lose importance? Or is it not that big a deal? Should you choose your deployment after looking at the enemies? Or do you have a pre - convieved idea of where you will place your troops that you factor into your strategy?

Thanks for your thoughts.

DireStrike 08 Jan 2006 03:55

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
Deployment is ridiculously important for a static force, less so for a mech force.

A static force badly deployed is a dead force. A mech force badly deployed is like marines played without a plan. You can still win without too much extra difficulty, but it's a waste.

All Tau units need to work together. You will hear this said over and over, because it's true. A tau unit by itself can accomplish very little, or can actually do something and will then immediately die. This is why I no longer attend "bring 300 points!" mega battles at GW. A unit or two of marines is a force. A unit or two of Tau is lost.

Your deployment must reflect this, and allow your forces to work together. If you are static, you will not have much chance to change position after deployment. So make sure your slow guys can support each other without moving! Or without moving very far.

If you are mech, the most important thing is to protect your vehicles. If your opponent gets the first turn, he can penetrate your hulls. The second thing you should look to do is to confuse your opponent. You do this by deploying in such a way that, when each unit moves on the first turn, they will then be in effective fighting formation.

Hopefully you can make initial deployment look as if it is not particularly thought out, like a flat line. Then suddenly, the left side of the field is a lump of units overlapping fire, and the right side is a few long range elements bombarding while moving away from the front, usually to join those on the left. Or some other such hijinx.

Vash113 08 Jan 2006 04:04

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
For me deployment is vital, I never pre-concieve a stratagy, I form a plan once deployment is done. But the main thing is to protect my tanks. Until they are up and moving they are vulnerable, very much so.

Deployment is a very important aspect of the game that I find is often overlooked. For some armies like marines it can be shrugged off and increasingly I find it is less important for a mechanized army. However especially for a hybrid or static Tau force it can be essential, setting up fire lanes and covering support, traps and ambushes, etc. It is all very important or you will find units that cant do anything for lack of sight and range or units that are in the thick of it and have no support.

Black Behemoth 08 Jan 2006 04:07

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
Deployment has cost me many games. Oftenly, I deploy first and all of my static forces are in the wrong places, and my Crisis Suits are strangely exposed. Deployment means life or death to both static and mech. You don't want a Lascannon firing through the side armor of your Devilfish or Hammerhead on turn 1. That can really mess up your mechanization.

Fish Ead 08 Jan 2006 04:12

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
The less mobile the army, the more important deployment is. If you can move quickly then at least you can correct mistakes. This being said stupid deployment can still ruin a fully mechanized army's day.

Units such as hammerheads and devilfishes are probably best set up behind LoS blocking terrain just in case you dont get first turn. Any unit that can move and fire at maximum range can be set up this way. I did it all the time with my IW obliterators

Black Behemoth 08 Jan 2006 04:18

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
I play a lot of 500 point games, where Mechanization is nearly impossible without having a weakened assortment of weapons. So are Crisis Suits going to be 20 points or 25 points? The elite of the army seem to be more like the super elite based on their ridiculous point cost.

Back on topic, I am trying to say that not only is it that the less movement the more deployment matters. But also, the less amount of points the more deployment matters.

Khaldun 08 Jan 2006 04:27

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
How important deployment is... well,

army list; 50% of battle
deployment/manuever; 35%
uncontrollable; 15%

Rathstar 08 Jan 2006 11:02

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Khaldun
How important deployment is... well,

army list; 50% of battle
deployment/manuever; 35%
uncontrollable; 15%

I think with forums it's easy to come up with a lists that is ok (maybe not perfect, but certainly competetive). Unless you've brought a real bad list you can still win with good deployment and gaming.

I would put it more at 30% list, 30% deployment, 30% manuever & 10% uncontrollable. Of course these % change depending on the type of list, eg. an IW gun-line is more list and deployment.

Rathstar

tauplayer 08 Jan 2006 14:42

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
Almost all of my losses can be attributed to particularly poor deployment. I didn't really pay much attention in the deployment phase for a while, and I had been losing. Then I had the following happen:

I was Space Marines playing against another space marine player. I didn't really protect any of my vehicles in my deployment (predator annihilator, venerable dreadnaught, land speeder tornado). First turn, he gets to start, and he destroys the dreanaught, the speeder, and makes the predator unable to fire (and kept it that way until he finally destroyed it). That was all of my heavy hitting troops. Sure, I had some missile launchers in my tac squads, but that doesn't help. He then proceeded to utterly destroy my army. All I did was take out a few vehicle weapons, a couple of termies, and half a dev squad. He got everything.

After that, I started paying MUCH closer attention to deployment. Bad deployment can easily cost you the game before you even start to play. Really good deployment can mean that even if you make some mistakes in the game, you'll still pull off a victory.

Mr.Tau 08 Jan 2006 14:58

Re: Importance of Deployment
 
To be fair deployment doesn't effect me that much unless i don't know what i am up against, if it's an army list or an opponent i know then i simply build a solid list against it and make up a strategy before any deployment. If it's a mystery then i kinda rely on deployment a bit more as i just spot the more deadly units on their side work out a weakness then put whatever that weakness is usually in front of it in cover or behind some fw's or kroot.
For me it's 50% on my list, 30% on my strategy, 10% on deployment and 10% on uncontrollable.


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