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How do you kill a Seer Council?
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Old 15 Dec 2005, 00:22   #1 (permalink)
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Default How do you kill a Seer Council?

As the title suggests, I'm a little infuriated by my Ulthwe-playing buddy.* He has a seer council of like 4 or 5, and subsoquently, beats me every game after I've reduced the rest of his army to scrap.*

IT's not just any seer council, you see.* It's led by Eldrad Ulthran. They get to re-roll their frigging invulnerable 4+ saves like TWICE.* PER UNIT. I have never, ever seen my friend's seer council die.* I think I've seen him lose, at most, one farseer per game out of that.

Help me? (Read: SAve me?)

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Old 15 Dec 2005, 01:49   #2 (permalink)
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As the title suggests, I'm a little infuriated by my Ulthwe-playing buddy. He has a seer council of like 4 or 5, and subsoquently, beats me every game after I've reduced the rest of his army to scrap.

IT's not just any seer council, you see. It's led by Eldrad Ulthran. They get to re-roll their frigging invulnerable 4+ saves like TWICE. PER UNIT. I have never, ever seen my friend's seer council die. I think I've seen him lose, at most, one farseer per game out of that.

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Lots of guns. Theyre invulerable so heavy weapons are not the way to go. If every turn 4 of em take a save then 1 of em will die. Pulse rifles can make him take many more saves than that.
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Old 15 Dec 2005, 01:51   #3 (permalink)
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fill them with pluse force them to fail there invurable save via mass fire
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But it's a 3+ save, re-rolled TWICE. Think about it:

lets take 48 shots from two suicidal FW squads rapid-firing.

24 miss, 22 wound

First round of saves: 2/3 of 22 will be saved, leaving us with about 8.

2/3 of those will be saved, leaving us with about 3.

MAYBE one wound on that. If you're lucky. THen they hit you with eldrich storm, mind war, and then melee you.

Feh. There has to be a better way. Pound them wtih massed submunition fire, maybe?
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Old 15 Dec 2005, 03:06   #5 (permalink)
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How do they get to reroll twice? Is that a special power? Usually rerolling can only ever happen once. I've never played a Seer Council, so I'm just curious.

I think massed any firepower I guess. Submunitions, pulse rifles, kroot guns. Eventually those saves got to fail.

Do they work in CC? Maybe a Kroot Charge? Though Eldar usually eat Kroot in CC unless you've got heavy numbers. Which you will with Kroot.
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I'd say charge a kroot squad of 20 into them. Farseers are really quite poor in HtH. The kroot should be able to inflict a few wounds each turn. As long as you're whiping out all the nasty HtH specialists that could be supporting them then the kroot should keep them tied up the whole game. If there are any warlocks in there try to target them first so you'll score higher in combat resolution. That way your kroot won't have to check moral, which is about the only way he's going to escape from the combat.
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In the rulebook, it specifically states that you can NEVER RE-ROLL A RE-ROLL. I believe the best they can ever get is a 4+ with a re-roll should they fail. If he pays extra for a further re-roll, he still doesn't get one, PERIOD.

Basically, that alone should make your job that much easier. Sounds like you and your buddy misinterpreted the rules. Just shoot them with lots of kroot rifles or pulse weapons, or assault them with kroot.
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-_-; He did that with infiltrating Striking Scorpions, too, said they got hidden deployment.

It's weird, because HE got ME into 40k; one would think he would know the rules better than I. My mistake for not trying to consult the rulebook.

Also, while we're at it,l does that no re-roll for the re-roll thing apply to Perils of the Warp tests? (Augmentation by the other farseers?)
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It applies to everything. If you re-roll the dice, it is no longer possible to re-roll them again. For example;

some battle honours allow you to re-roll to hit dice... just like twin linked weapons. It specifically states that twin linked weapons work in exactly the same way, battle honour or no.
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...no wonder I kept losing -_- try as I might, I could NEVER drop that friggin' seer council.
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