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Ethereal Theories...again. Old One and Slaan Intervention.
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Old 09 Dec 2005, 20:44   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ethereal Theories...again. Old One and Slaan Intervention.

This theory was mentioned and backed by a few members a while back. But there have been quite a few threads of late that got onto the whole Etheral theory thing again, so I thought I'd bring this one back up.

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There is a lot that points towards some kind of Old One intervention in the Tau, perhaps the last few of their race. Perhaps foreseen and it was one of the last orders given to the Slaan before the Old Ones were wiped out by the Enslaver plague . Nearly every race has had Old One influence and all these races have a leader strain -

Orks - Brain Boys : Were finally overthrown by the slaves [real Orks] and the mushrooms were eaten, the Brain boys then regressed into Grots and become the slaves.

Humans - Golden men : Now, the Humans arenít a direct result of Old Ones as many races are. But the Old Ones visited Earth and the most promising species was adapted to create the Jakero. Now, the fact that the Golden race of men emerged would suggest that the Old Ones left an imprint for the leader strain to emerge in humanity when it was ready, so was left to develop mostly on its own. But the Golden race was overthrown :-

The Golden Race of Men become depended on the Stone Race of Men and their artifices, as such the Stone Men prevail. M16

Eldar - Their Gods : Again, overthrown and defeated. A war with the Eldar, the Eldar prevailed [in short, lot more complex than that though].

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Now, look at the Tau. Ethereals remind you of these Leader Strains much?

It is my belief that the last Old Ones or perhaps Slaan at the Old Ones request, planted the Leader Strain in the Tau, much like they did with Humanity. To emerge when needed. As the Ethereals emerged as the Tau were going to wipe themselves out.

I donít think anything created the Warp Storms, I know of nothing powerful enough to do that BUT, I've no doubt the Old Ones could have foreseen the storms and so, set up plans to plant the leader strain in the Tau to create a new powerful race to contend with the Necrons when they re-emerged [The Tau have come to strength as the Necrons are emerging]. Their last great works as it were, with plans left with the Slaan to fulfil.

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It is possible, but I don't like it. It seems to limit the fluff capabilities of the races.
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Old 09 Dec 2005, 20:50   #3 (permalink)
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What?

I doesn't matter if you like it or not. That has no bearing on how accurate it is. I don't know what you mean by limiting the fluff capabilities either?

All that stuff about Orks, Humans and Eldar isn't speculation [well, generally. Some things though, as with most 40K fluff has to be guessed at. But for the most part it isnt]. Only the stuff about the Tau.

At least try to find fault with the reasoning behind it.
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ARRRGH! The Slann are dead!

Ranting aside, I think I've found some stuff wrong with your points.

Orks - Brain boys - Probably a name for the Slann themselves during the war with the Necrons

Eldar - Their Gods - Eldar gods are Warp enities. Not actual flesh and blood beings. I know you're thinking. "Khaine was real"
He was. So are Bloodthirsters.

Humans - Can't disprove this as I know little about human history.

Also the Slann were destroyed before the panet Tau even existed.

In short, the Old Ones probably made themselves the leader strains.
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'ARRRGH! The Slann are dead!'

Erm, no. They aren't.

'Orks - Brain boys - Probably a name for the Slann themselves during the war with the Necrons'

No, Brain Boys were Grots eating super mushrooms of knowledge.

'Eldar - Their Gods - Eldar gods are Warp enities. Not actual flesh and blood beings. I know you're thinking. "Khaine was real"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *He was. So are Bloodthirsters.
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Again, no. Eldar Gods are very different. They co-existed with the Eldar for a long time. The actual Gods themselves, not Avatars of them.

'Also the Slann were destroyed before the panet Tau even existed.'

The Slaan are still around, just with nothing like their former glory.
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I'm clueless on some fluff, but what are Old Ones and what are Slaan?
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read the necron codex. in a nutshell, the old ones, or old slann created most of the forms of life in this galaxy, including the eldar, orks and so forth. Others they didnt create, but moulded or drove their evolution a certain way (like with humans, possibly)

the slann, in the old days of rogue trader were lizardmen in space. i still have fluff on them.
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Sorry if I was unclear with my post on the Eldar Gods. I thought you were going to say "Khaine was a physical being, not a warp enity" hence my Bloodthirster example. The Gods were created by Eldar minds, not Old One gene science.

Is there any actual proof that Brain Boys were grots or is this just a common theory? ???

You were right about the Slann being alive. :-[But I still don't think these "degenerate descendants" (Necron codex quote) are strong enough to actually do anything.
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Slaan aren't descendents of the Old Ones, they are just another race that the Old Ones nurtured, just as they did with the Eldar, Orks etc.

Thats the thing about the Eldar Gods, they had physical forms. They were just like..........super Eldar. Massively powerful 'godly' beings. I don't think they were created from Eldar minds.
C'tan are classed as Gods, yet they aren't, they are just other powerful entities.

'Is there any actual proof that Brain Boys were grots'

Im pretty sure that Brain Boys were Grots eating super mushrooms of knowledge. The Orks were their workforce, warriors etc. Pretty much slaves. The Orks got fed up and ate all the mushrooms thinking it would make them clever. It didn't, there were then no mushrooms left, the Brain Boys degenerated to Grots, who are now in turn, slaves to the Orks [IIRC].
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Slann aren't descendents of the Old Ones, they are just another race that the Old Ones nurtured, just as they did with the Eldar, Orks etc

Um.... I thought Slann was another name for Old Ones. If not, just replace "Slann" with "Old Ones" in all my posts.

Thats the thing about the Eldar Gods, they had physical forms. They were just like..........super Eldar. Massively powerful 'godly' beings. I don't think they were created from Eldar minds.

I disagree, but it could make sense. But if so, why did Khaine not die when Slannesh killed him? If he wasn't a Warp creature than he would have just died. (No Avatars)
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