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Old 08 Nov 2005, 20:40   #1 (permalink)
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do you think there could be a fact site/ post about the Tau
like how-
they are vegetarian
they can't be possesed by psykers/ demons...
tau don't kill other tau- they just can't
there are currently Genestealer incursions

stuff like that- on top of which i think that there should be some kind of officialized map of the Empire and the Ultima Segmentum as a whole.
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 20:50   #2 (permalink)
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A fluff FAQ could make sense, though they do have a tendancy of preventing a bit of discussion (the same question can get a bit boring but its equally annoying to have half a forum of locked posts with a few 'check the FAQ' posts in it). Makes more work for the mods too...

There is also the case for a lot of the facts that they are still debatable (like your Tau killing Tau one, the vegetarian point, and the possession issue).
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 20:57   #3 (permalink)
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right there not vegeterian they clearly use to hunt and eat meat from the codex

about the deamon part go to GW UK web site go to demoan hunters look under advisary (cant miss it, it has a picture of tau and a demoan) and you get what you need

tau dont kill other tau? beyond what the codex say about the fear of the great war nothing realy thought you could say they fight tau who are under the control of demoans or farsight enlcaves

genestealer: i am to lasy to finded the link but go to GW UK web site then go to specialest games then go to inquistor then go search the article for a tau name he a sample character he a water cast click on his pdf he has fluff which comfirms gene stealer pressence in the tau empire
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 21:00   #4 (permalink)
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right there not vegeterian they clearly use to hunt and eat meat from the codex
Well strictly speaking that says they are not herbivores, there is some background supporting the idea that they are vegetarians (choosing not to eat meat) but then other parts suggest that they might eat a limited amount of meat as well. This really is the point though...
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Fluff by its very nature is almost impossible to verify. Even the most simple things can be doubtable and argueable, its almost rediculous.

Also that is wrong for the daemons. That is a daemon leading a Tau army its true, but the Daeomon did not possess a Tau as his vessel. Nor does it prove that Tau can be corrupt. The explenation that goes with that picture is that the Daemon fooled the Tau into aiding it. That does not mean the Tau are tainted, that does not mean any of them were possessed.

Tau really cannot be possessed. A psyker is needed for a good hoste and not just an average one but a strong psyker, a greater daemon simply could not use a Tau as a hoste. Their connection to the warp is just too small, much less than average humans and even they are not good hostes. Sure the Daemons could possess a tainted Tau and yes Tau can be tainted. But it would take a long time to taint them and the possession would last mere minutes, maybe even seconds before the body was destroyed.

Even something that seems so simple can even be argued. Apparently there is strong support of vegetarian Tau in the book Kill Team but the codex calls the plain dwellers nomad hunters. The conflicting evidence on both sides of any argument on any point of fluff just makes drawing even simple conclusions near impossible.
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right there not vegeterian they clearly use to hunt and eat meat from the codex
Well strictly speaking that says they are not herbivores, there is some background supporting the idea that they are vegetarians (choosing not to eat meat) but then other parts suggest that they might eat a limited amount of meat as well. This really is the point though...
where is this vegitan fluff then dont give me kill team those books have a lot of rubish in them
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 21:29   #7 (permalink)
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So other than the first book that came out to introduce Tau written by one of the game designers, you want an additional source?
You could point to the distaste the Tau have with the Kroots scavenging nature that they themselves don't eat meat or kill other organisms for food, but as with any social aspect of a 40K race, you are going to find it hard to find much.

Can you provide an example of a Tau eating meat in the current day, or just that they original hunted?
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So other than the first book that came out to introduce Tau written by one of the game designers, you want an additional source?
You could point to the distaste the Tau have with the Kroots scavenging nature that they themselves don't eat meat or kill other organisms for food, but as with any social aspect of a 40K race, you are going to find it hard to find much.

Can you provide an example of a Tau eating meat in the current day, or just that they original hunted?
Can you provide solid evidence otherwise. There is nothing to really say the Tau do not eat meat. Their distaste in the kroot is NOT about eating meat, its about the carnivorous aspect. The kroot do not hunt for food, they eat the dead enemies on the battlefield. That is what the Tau do not like. Firewarrior has ritual hunts during the trials by fire and the current battle tactics of the Fire caste revolve around hunting a great deal. Given the level such a thing has on the Tau, or perhaps the Fire caste at leasts way of life and practices I sincerely doubt they would not even consume the object of their focus, you know meat.
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 22:03   #9 (permalink)
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I know certain people will take issue with you over accepting Firewarrior over Kill Team as a background source (after reading the extract I think I might as well), especially as you don't mention whether Fire Warrior actually has them eating meat.
The evidence otherwise is the passage I quoted in the other thread - that as far as the Imperium knows, Tau do not eat meat and presumably then have never been offered it when sending diplomats or had a Tau eat it when they have been entertaining them. Seems an odd little thing to do just to try to give a false impression.

Could you give a discription of the Ritual hunts in the various Trials, does it mention what they are hunting?
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Theres really no official answer to your questions. A lot of it a bit too detailed for GW to cover, but you can deduce some things like possession by chaos etc isn't usually possible due to their relatively minute warp presence. Other than that, we can only speculate over other details, until there is something to prove it or prove otherwise. Even with official fluff etc, sometimes there are conflicts etc, based off the personal opinions of different writers, such as the colour of Tau blood (red or blue?).

As for the first question, there isn't such a site that I know of. This forum is probably as close as you can get to one such site, though nothing is set in stone so members can discuss them etc, as there are various threads covering many of the details.

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I know certain people will take issue with you over accepting Firewarrior over Kill Team as a background source
The thing with the various 40k novels, is that they’re generally spectacle, that is, a lot of things are exaggerated to generate action etc in the novel. And also, there isn't much fluff or background on Tau, apart from the Codex, so Fire Warrior, from a Tau point of view, gives us pretty much the only deep insight into Tau life (as a Fire Warrior). That's probably the reason why it's accepted over Kill Team, as Kill Team is heavily biased against Tau, being from an Imperial point of view.. (Though I haven't read it yet..)
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