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Old 08 Nov 2005, 16:45   #1 (permalink)
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Just wanted to see what the community thinks of my latest army selection. Since joining gun drones with a Shas'El nullifies the the rule where you can't shoot at an independant character that has a closer unit in front of it I never choose a GDC with crisis HQ's. I have come up with a pretty well tested and battle proven army selection:

2 Shas'EL's w/TLMP, PR, HWTL and a full squad of stealth suits with 2 gun drones

Having the stealth suits directly in front of the HQ's effectivly gives the crisis suits the disruption field. All this at the cost of 439 pts. Just want to hear input or to give a few other people a chance to have something that can effectivly take down any troops and almost all vehicles (minus 14 armored vehicles)
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 17:03   #2 (permalink)
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Presumably you mean they are joining the unit, rather than the stealths standing in front?

Seeing as Stealth suits don't count as targets for closest enemy, or blocking LOS far as I remember
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 18:24   #3 (permalink)
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Presumably you mean they are joining the unit, rather than the stealths standing in front?

Seeing as Stealth suits don't count as targets for closest enemy, or blocking LOS far as I remember
That is a tricky question. Tastyfish is correct in that Stealthsuits never count as the closest target for determing priority or IC protection. The stealth ability is not conferred on the Crisis suits, nor is Infiltration. Because of how the Stealthsuits work, I imagine that a commander joining them would effectively make the squad lose its stealth ability, since the commander would be visible at any range. Tough call. You would need pretty forgiving opponents to make it work.
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Old 08 Nov 2005, 18:31   #4 (permalink)
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Presumably you mean they are joining the unit, rather than the stealths standing in front?

Seeing as Stealth suits don't count as targets for closest enemy, or blocking LOS far as I remember
I would have to agree with both Tastyfish and Khanaris.

The Stealth Team being in front of the Shas'els would not prevent them from being targeted for the reasons mentioned.

And having them join the Stealth Team would not confer the Stealth Field Generator benefits onto the Shas'els.

Perhaps if you explained in more detail how this plan is to be properly executed?


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Old 08 Nov 2005, 20:15   #5 (permalink)
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Having the stealth suits directly in front of the HQ's effectivly gives the crisis suits the disruption field.
Nup. Only the stealthsuits have the stealthsuit/camo ability. It's not conferred onto any units behind it etc. And the fields generated are pretty much on the model itself, not like a big dome enclosing the squad etc. And no, the Shas'el won't get stealth if he joins the squad.
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Old 09 Nov 2005, 03:47   #6 (permalink)
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Well I guess a yes and no would be in order here ..... I may be wrong, but I would like to know what rules book says stealth suits are "not" eligible for LOS and closest target. If you do have that reference I have the book and I do not remember anything about not be eligible as closest target. I'm just going off the standard rule book definition of firing units can't target independent characters when another choice is closer. Now I may be wrong and if you have the reference to a rules book I would greatly appreciate the help finding a different interpretation.
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Old 09 Nov 2005, 03:53   #7 (permalink)
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It's in the 4th ed Tau FAQ... a link to which can be found within one of the stickies at the top of the page.
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Old 09 Nov 2005, 04:01   #8 (permalink)
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>.< Ouch you guys really know how to make a grown man cry :-[
It's all good though thanks for the help guys O0
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