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Old 05 Nov 2005, 08:37   #1 (permalink)
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Default Crisis suits in Fire warrior squad

As Space Marines can upgrade their sergents with terminator armour, could you upgrade a Shas'ui in a normal Fire Warrior squad with a battlesuit (obviously not the broadside)?
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Old 05 Nov 2005, 08:43   #2 (permalink)
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No.

It is not a wargear option and simply wouldn't fit in with the idealogy of the Tau - why have an ultra mobile suit leading slow infantry and stopping them using a devilfish transport?

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Old 05 Nov 2005, 08:56   #3 (permalink)
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The upgraded leader has very limited options and they're mostly named at the troops entry.
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Well.. terminator armour isn't that much larger than normal armour. Crisis suits aren't a direct equivalent. And they're many times larger than a Fire Warrior itself.

Now, if you're getting the ranks confused, advancing in rank, e.g. to Shas'Ui, does not mean that they automatically get an XV8.
Advancing to XV8 Shas'ui is another progression in rank, onwards from Fire Warrior Shas'ui.

It wouldn't make much sense to mix units anyway, as they rest of the squad would not have jetpacks etc and would slow down the xv8.


Basically, the progression in ranks goes like this:

> Shas'la Fire Warrior
--> Shas'Ui Fire Warrior
----> Shas'Ui Stealthsuit
---------> Shas'Vre Stealthsuit
----> Shas'Ui XV8
---------> Shas'Vre XV8
-------------> Shas'El XV8
-----------------> Shas'O XV8
----> Shas'Ui XV88
---------> Shas'Vre XV88
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Originally Posted by [ mace
link=topic=13315.msg215457#msg215457 date=1131185966]
Basically, the progression in ranks goes like this:

-> Shas'la Fire Warrior
--> Shas'Ui Fire Warrior
----> Shas'Ui Stealthsuit
---------> Shas'Vre Stealthsuit
----> Shas'Ui XV8
---------> Shas'Vre XV8
-------------> Shas'El XV8
-----------------> Shas'O XV8
----> Shas'Ui XV88
---------> Shas'Vre XV88
Don't Shas'vre XV88 and XV15 become Shas'el XV8 when they get another rank???
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Yeah.. if they line up vertically, then they're of the equivalent rank. Otherwise they can progress across to the next rank.. so a Shas'vre of any suit could progress onto xv8 shas'el/o etc.. I was meaning to show rank hierarchy in that, without complicating it too much..
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Yeah.. if they line up vertically, then they're of the equivalent rank. Otherwise they can progress across to the next rank.. so a Shas'vre of any suit could progress onto xv8 shas'el/o etc.. I was meaning to show rank hierarchy in that, without complicating it too much..
OK... sorry :P
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However, it's not likely a Stealth Shas'vre would be promoted to a Shas'el due to their maverick nature.* Being a Shas'vre is their 'niche', and they obviously do it very well.* Also, to become a Shas'el you need to serve as a commander's bodyguard, meaning if they were to be considered for promotion they'd need to ditch the Stealth suit and use a Crisis Suit instead.

I'm wondering how they are planning to explain the Shas'el Stealthsuit special character...

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Well if they were really good.. I would assume that there are higher ranks for stealthsuits, even if they aren't present in your average armies. Keep in mind she is a special character, so it could just be a one-off/rare/unique thing.
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I'm wondering how they are planning to explain the Shas'el Stealthsuit special character...

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What's this about a new special character... I havn't heard of this... could smbody give me the link to the topic wich mentions this
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