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Old 06 Jul 2005, 11:57   #1 (permalink)
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[size=10pt][size=10pt]Kesalins Hunter Cadre1000 Pts - Tau Army[/size][/size]

[size=10pt]HQ[/size]
[hr]
1 Commander Shas'el (HQ) @ 259 Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker

2 Bodyguard @ [174] Pts
Plasma Rifle; TL Missile Pod
Hard-wired multi-tracker [10]

[size=10pt]TROOPS[/size]
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12 Fire Warriors (Troops) @ 200 Pts
Pulse Rifle (x12)

1 Devilfish Dropship @ [80] Pts
Burst Cannon; Landing Gear
#Pair of Gun Drones [0]

2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
TL Pulse Carbine (x2)

12 Fire Warriors (Troops) @ 200 Pts
Pulse Rifle (x12)

1 Devilfish Dropship @ [80] Pts
Burst Cannon; Landing Gear
#Pair of Gun Drones [0]

2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
TL Pulse Carbine (x2)

[size=10pt]HEAVY SUPPORT[/size]
[hr]
1 Hammerhead Gunship (Heavy Support) @ 180 Pts
Railgun; Smart Missile System; Landing Gear
#Targetting Array [0]
Decoy Launcher [5]
Target Lock [5]
Multi-tracker [10]

1 Hammerhead Gunship (Heavy Support) @ 160 Pts
Ion Cannon; Smart Missile System; Landing Gear
#Targetting Array [0]
Decoy Launcher [5]
Multi-tracker [10]
Target Lock [5]

Models in Army: 35


Total Army Cost: 999
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Old 06 Jul 2005, 13:36   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do you rate this 1000pt list????

Let me see how i rate it. (I love this job) ;D

HQ
1 Commander Shas'el (HQ) @ 259 Pts
* * *Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
* * *2 Bodyguard @ [174] Pts
* * * * * Plasma Rifle; TL Missile Pod
* * * * * Hard-wired multi-tracker [10]
First off... do u have to tell every single detail?* This list is really confusing to read, but i can make it out.* Tips on that at the end.
Now, the commander is fine but i would of made a different gun combo. I suggest TL Missile, Plasma, and HW Multitracker.
Bodyguards:* TAKE THEM OUT!!!!* Bodyguard make units with the commander so now the opponant can chose if he wants to kill the commander.* I would thake the 2 bodyguards and put them as 2 eliets with TL Missile or TL Plasma with Flamer, or take em out compleatly.



TROOPS
12 Fire Warriors (Troops) @ 200 Pts
* * *Pulse Rifle (x12)
* * *1 Devilfish Dropship @ [80] Pts
* * * * * Burst Cannon; Landing Gear
* * * * * #Pair of Gun Drones
2 Gun Drones @
Pts[/b]
* * * * * * * * * * TL Pulse Carbine (x2)

Ok, u have to say all that?* We don't need to say landing gear.* Nor gun drone weapons, we know what they are.* *Add decoy launchers to ur Devilfish and ur fine.* Bond if u want*


12 Fire Warriors (Troops) @ 200 Pts
* * *Pulse Rifle (x12)
* * *1 Devilfish Dropship @ [80] Pts
* * * * * Burst Cannon; Landing Gear
* * * * * #Pair of Gun Drones
* * * * * * * 2 Gun Drones @
Pts
* * * * * * * * * * TL Pulse Carbine (x2)

Ditto.


HEAVY SUPPORT
1 Hammerhead Gunship (Heavy Support) @ 180 Pts
* * *Railgun; Smart Missile System; Landing Gear
* * *#Targetting Array
* * *Decoy Launcher [5]
* * *Target Lock [5]
* * *Multi-tracker [10]
1 Hammerhead Gunship (Heavy Support) @ 160 Pts
* * *Ion Cannon; Smart Missile System; Landing Gear
* * *#Targetting Array
* * *Decoy Launcher [5]
* * *Multi-tracker [10]
* * *Target Lock [5]

Once again, landing gear?* *Solid Gunships.*

Models in Army: 35
Total Army Cost: 999

Ok, the only thing u need to add is a gun drone squad.* U need protection for ur Commander and Drones are the best protection ur commander can get (except walls ;D)* To get some of the pts for the drones, take out 1 devilfish, they can walk.* *Good Luck.*

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Old 06 Jul 2005, 17:16   #3 (permalink)
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Very well rated Woger! You have served me well my young padawan! (Actually, you just beat me too it!)

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Once again, landing gear?
Indeed...what is Landing Gear? Perhaps on the VDR, but never on Tau vehicles. If it is not in the Tau codex, then it is not an upgrade.

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[i]Ok, the only thing u need to add is a gun drone squad.* U need protection for ur Commander and Drones are the best protection ur commander can get (except walls ;D)* To get some of the pts for the drones, take out 1 devilfish, they can walk.* *Good Luck.*
I disagree (bolded by me for emphais)...I love Drones, but do not remove the 2nd Devilfish! You need it! With the points from the removed bodyguard, you should have enought for a squad of 8.
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Old 06 Jul 2005, 19:02   #4 (permalink)
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Hi

That's a lot of fire power for a 1000pt list!

You should have Decoy Launchers on your Devilfish. to get the points you could drop the body gguardon your Shas'el. Next you get two Crisis Battle Suit teams of on man each, up grade them both to team leaders and kit them out the same as the Body GaGuards

The benefits: 1. you get your 10 pts to give both of your Devilfish Decoy Launchers. 2. Your Shas'el gets to utilize the IndIndependentaracter rules.
On the down side your Elites now have 1 less Weapon Skill and Initiative. Not really a big deal since you don't want your suits to be in CC any way.

Over all its a solid list thatthat'st, mobile and hard hitting. Good job!
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Old 06 Jul 2005, 20:22   #5 (permalink)
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You should have Decoy Launchers on your Devilfish. to get the points you could drop the body gguardon your Shas'el. Next you get two Crisis Battle Suit teams of on man each, up grade them both to team leaders and kit them out the same as the Body GaGuards
Team leaders for Monat Crisis are too expensive and not worth it...if you wish to take a Monat, then be sure to try out my favorite Configuration: The Deathrain Config: Twin-Linked Missile Pod, Flamer.
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Old 07 Jul 2005, 02:01   #6 (permalink)
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Hi

True, the Deathrain would be 25pts cheaper. With the 50 pts you could add shas'ui's to the Firewarriors and with the last 10pts add something frivolous like Targeting arrays or Blacksun Filters
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Old 07 Jul 2005, 04:09   #7 (permalink)
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Sup, Kesalin

I think you are very close to a great list.

As everyone already said, no body guard, you still need all the points you can muster at 1000 for models.

Stay with the fireknife, it is hard to go wrong with it. Let's cut a few things,

The Bodyguard to Elites, Single Model units. Leaves you around 40 points extra. Axe one DF, and change SMS on HHeads to BC's. Gives you about 140 points to play with.

Add Decloy Launchers to your one DF.

You can Add one unit of Kroot! about 20 models strong. That is alot of extra firepower; if they end up in a forest, that is one unit that will cost your opponent to take out!
or
You can add one unit of four SS's to your list.

I know how A'u'nut feels about total Mech Tau. Sorry A'u'nut but I also feel that . . . .

That second DF would only help if you play on a field with heavy terrian and your FW's don't use their rifles until the emeny is up close. Also if your Opponent is Lascannon heavy or Necron, those transports will go down fast leaving your guys dead or stranded.

It will be up to you in the end, because what may work for me, may not work for you. Also I tend to feel that a Total Mech army works better in larger games 1200+, but in smaller games, up to 1000, I prefer more bang for my points.

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