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Kroot Shaper
Join Date: Oct 2009
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HQ Shas’o – 157 Pts ¬- Cyclic Ion Blaster - Twin-Linked Burst Cannon - Multi-Tracker (Hard-Wired) -Iridium Armor (Hard Wired) -Hard-Wired Drone Controller w/ 2 Gun Drones -Stimulant Injector Elites 2 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits – 136 Pts - 2 Plasma Rifles - 2 Twin-Linked Fusion Blasters - 2 Hard- Wired Multi-Tracker 3 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits + 169 Pts -3 Targeting Arrays - 3Twin Linked Missile Pods - Team Leader with Bonding Knife 6 XV 15 Stealth Armor + 250 Pts + 6Targeting Arrays + Team Leader with Bonding Knife Troops (4) 12 Fire Warriors + 580 Pts - 4 Team Leader with Bonding Knife - 4 Marker Lights 4 Devil Fish APC (Dedicated Transports) – 460 Pts - 4 Smart Missile System - 4 Disruption Pods - 4 Multi-Trackers 20 Kroot + 180 Pts -8 Kroot Hounds Heavy Support 3 Broadsides – 240 Pts -3 Advanced Stabilization Systems (2) Hammerhead Gunship + 320 pts - Railgun - Dual (Not Twin-Linked) Burst Cannons - Flechette Discharger My idea was the fire warriors to destroy anything infantry-like, and the Crisis suits taking out anything else from behind with deepstriking. Then stealth suits with the crisis suits to help mop up. The heavy is well...heavy, and take out the vehicles |
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with the deathrain suits, you dont really need the targetting array, you could use the spare slot for other things. maybe a target lock, or a shield generator.
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Looks like its going to be a pretty good looking list, but ill run down and suggest some changes that you could look into.
HQ: A solid looking HQ, however a few well placed lascannon shots and hes KIA. I would swap out the gun drones for a pair of shield drones, this lets him allocate nasty things that would kill him to the drones, who have +4 invulnerable saves. Also, TL burst cannons is just a waste of points on a BS 5 shaso, the points would be better spent on a plasma rifle, or just a single burst cannon. Since that opens up a hard point, consider giving him a positional relay so that you get those deep striking suits on command. Elites: First team looks pretty good, except you cant have 2 suits in the same team with hard wired wargear. Regular shasui suits can only use the 3 hard points and no additional wargear, however a Shasvre can use pretty much anything he wants. Its an easy fix, just drop the hard wired and have him just fire one weapon at a time, or drop the TL fusion blaster to just one, and and a multi-tracker. The second team looks, pretty solid also, but like Jayne said you really dont need the targetting array. Rather, you could give them all flamers for some serious close range fire power, or for wound allocation purposes you could roll them all differently, say 1 w/ flamer, 1 w/ drone controller with some shield drones, and 1 w/ target lock. Gives you a pretty tough team, with some good all around fire power. The stealth team is a bit expensive for my tastes, but it will sure put a nice sized hole in most GEQ formations. However, since you said you are using your Fire warriors for most of the anti-infantry work, this squad might be better suited for some more marker lights. Perhaps drop the squad down to 3 or so suits, (can keep TA if you want) with a shasvre with a hard wired drone controller and 2 marker drones. They will give you some quality marker lights, that are fairly durable and mobile. Troops: Thats a fair amount of fire warriors (most ive run is 18 :P), however they should do a fair amout of damage provided their shots hit. Remember even though you gave the team leader a markerlight, the squad itself wont get any benefit from it. So aside from focusing fire on their target with the rest of the army, those marker lights probably arnt going to help much. Also, consider dropping them down to 10 man squads, it will save 80 pts with out sacrificing to much efficacy (points can go into shield drones for suits, or other things ive mentioned). All the devilfish look pretty good, though consider giving them targetting arrays to help them land all their shots, 7 BS 4 shots x4 is going to hurt most things. Kroot (minus the fact that they failed my yet again yesterday) look solid. Heavy support: Broadsides look pretty good, but consider giving them a shasvre with a hard wired drone controller and 2 shield drones. That way they can take some some hits from stuff that would normally insta kill them ie lascannons. Hammer heads, also look good except for acouple things. First d-pods are a must, you want these guys alive, second multi-tracker, it will let you move up to 12 inches and still fire a weapons. thats my 2 cents. |
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Kroot Shaper
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I basically put in all ur recommendations and had enough to put in an extra HQ
HQ Shas’o – 163 Pts ¬- Cyclic Ion Blaster - Burst Cannon - Multi-Tracker (Hard-Wired) -Iridium Armor (Hard Wired) -Hard-Wired Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones -Stimulant Injector Shas’El - 112 -Burst Cannon -Flamer -Hard-Wired Multi-Tracker -Positional Relay -Hard-Wired Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones Elites 2 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits – 124 Pts - 2 Plasma Rifles - 2 Fusion Blasters - 2 Multi-Trackers 3 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits + 177Pts - 3Twin Linked Missile Pods - 2 Flamers - Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones - Team Leader with Bonding Knife 3 XV 15 Stealth Armor + 160 Pts + 3Targeting Arrays + Team Leader with Bonding Knife - Hard-Wired Drone Controller w/ 2 Marker Drones Troops (4) 10 Fire Warriors + 460 Pts - 4 Team Leader with Bonding Knife 4 Devil Fish APC (Dedicated Transports) – 480 Pts - 4 Smart Missile System - 4 Disruption Pods - 4 Targeting Arrays - 4 Multi-Trackers 20 Kroot + 180 Pts -8 Kroot Hounds Heavy Support 3 Broadsides – 240 Pts -3 Advanced Stabilization Systems - Shas’Vre - Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones (2) Hammerhead Gunship + 350 pts - Railgun - Dual (Not Twin-Linked) Burst Cannons - Flechette Discharger -Disruption Pods -Multi-Tracker |
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Shas'O
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thats certainly better. i personally feel that the burstcannon is wasted on commanders, we have enough Pulse fire in out army, the suits are there to do what the warriors cant handle, not add an extra few shots.
have you considered making your shas'o an Aurora?
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Kroot Shaper
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Maybe I should change one into an aurora and the other into...deathrain with flamer?
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Kroot Shaper
Join Date: Oct 2009
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scratch that, i'd be two points over limit...the first one is an aurora
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Shas'Ui
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As in 2502points?
It is generaly accepted that points within 5 over are fine.
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id be tempted by an aurora and a helios if u can make the points for it.
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Kroot Shaper
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2,503 Pts. Got an Aurora and a Helios, or at least what I think are them. Correct me if I'm wrong
HQ Shas’o – 175 Pts - Cyclic Ion Blaster - Plasma Rifle - Multi-Tracker (Hard-Wired) -Iridium Armor (Hard Wired) -Hard-Wired Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones -Stimulant Injector Shas’El - 117 -Plasma -Fusion -Hard-Wired Multi-Tracker -Hard-Wired Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones Elites 2 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits – 124 Pts - 2 Plasma Rifles - 2 Fusion Blasters - 2 Multi-Trackers 3 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits + 177Pts - 3Twin Linked Missile Pods - 2 Flamers - Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones - Team Leader with Bonding Knife 3 XV 15 Stealth Armor + 160 Pts + 3Targeting Arrays + Team Leader with Bonding Knife - Hard-Wired Drone Controller w/ 2 Marker Drones Troops (4) 10 Fire Warriors + 460 Pts - 4 Team Leader with Bonding Knife 4 Devil Fish APC (Dedicated Transports) – 480 Pts - 4 Smart Missile System - 4 Disruption Pods - 4 Targeting Arrays - 4 Multi-Trackers 20 Kroot + 180 Pts -8 Kroot Hounds Heavy Support 3 Broadsides – 280 Pts -3 Advanced Stabilization Systems - Shas’Vre - Drone Controller w/ 2 Shield Drones (2) Hammerhead Gunship + 350 pts - Railgun - Dual (Not Twin-Linked) Burst Cannons - Flechette Discharger -Disruption Pods -Multi-Tracker |
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