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Old 05 Jun 2009, 23:41   #1 (permalink)
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Default Turning a 3085pt list into a 2500 point list

Ok, so I'm writing a list to use against my friend who plays Guard, and I'm a little over the point limit. My current list looks like this:
Commander Shas'o (Ol'Quath Re'Ray is his name, but that is irrelevant)
+ Airbursting Fragmentation Launcher
+ Cyclic Ion Blaster
+ Shield Generator
+ Stimulant Injector
+ Hard Wired Multi-Tracker
+ Shield Drones (x2)
175 points
Commander Shas'el (Cals'Nar Dak'e)
+ Burst Cannon
+ Plasma Rifle
+ Positional Relay
+ Iridium Armour
+ Hard Wired Multi-Tracker
+ Shield Drones (x2)
148 points
XV8 'Crisis' Battle Suit Team (x3)
+ Shas'vre
+ Bonding Knife
+ 3 Fusion Blasters
+ 3 Missile Pods
+ 2 Multi-Trackers
+ Shield Generator
+ Hard Wired Multi-Tracker
+ Hard Wired Target Lock
+ Shield Drones (x2)
317 points
XV8 'Crisis' Battle Suit Team (x3)
+ Shas'vre
+ Bonding Knife
+ 3 Burst Cannons
+ 3 Missile Pods
+ 2 Multi-Trackers
+ Shield Generator
+ Hard Wired Multi-Tracker
+ Shield Drones (x2)
305 points
Fire Warrior Team (x12) Dubbed Red Team
+ Shas'ui
+ Bonding Knife
+ EMP Grenades
+ Photon Grenades
+ Devilfish Troop Carrier
+ Disruption Pod
+ Targeting Array
+ Multi-Tracker
+ Flechette Discharger
293 points
Fire Warrior Team (x12) Dubbed Green Team
+ Carbines
+ Devilfish Troop Carrier
+Disruption Pods
205 points
Fire Warrior Team (x12) Dubbed Blue Team
+ Shas'ui
+ Bonding Knife
+ Photon Grenades
+ Devilfish Troop Carrier
+ Disruption Pod
+ Multi-Tracker
+ Seeker Missile (x2)
262 points
Fire Warrior Team (x12) Dubbed Purple Team
+ Shas'ui
+ Bonding Knife
+ Photon Grenades
+ Devilfish Troop Carrier
+ Disruption Pod
+ Multi-Tracker
+ Seeker Missile (x2)
262 points
Fire Warrior Team (x12) Dubbed Gold Team
+ Shas'ui
+ Bonding Knife
+ Markerlight
+ Hard Wired Target Lock
+ Marker Drones (x2)
210 points
Kroot Carnivore Squad (x20)
+ Shaper
+ Saves
180 points
Pathfinder Team (x8)
+ Shas'ui
+ Bonding Knife
+ Devilfish Troop Carrier
+ Disruption Pod
+ Seeker Missiles (x2)
216 points
Hammerhead Gunship
+ Railgun
+ Burst Cannons
+ Disruption Pod
+ Target Lock
+ Multi-Tracker
+ Seeker Missile (x2)
190 points
Hammerhead Gunship
+ Railgun
+ Smart Missile System
+ Disruption Pod
+ Target Lock
+ Multi-Tracker
+ Seeker Missile (x2)
200 points
Broadside Battlesuit
+ Shas'vre
+ Advanced Stabilization System
+ Hard Wired Multi-Tracker
+ Shield Drones (x2)
125 points
I'm willing to reduce upgrades on vehicles and remove squadrons, but i'd really rather not reduce squad sizes. I'm really stuck and i can't find a good balance between good Anti-Infantry and Anti-Armour if i remove things. Any advice/criticism would be great
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Old 06 Jun 2009, 01:57   #2 (permalink)
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Lets see...your HQ units are killing me here.

Shas`o

Do yourself a favor, drop the shield generator, and downgrade this guy to a shas`el. Just this alone will save you 45 pts.

Switch up the stimulant injector for a target array.

Shas`el (2)
-is it possible to twin link missilepods? I cant stand a positional relay unit that is meant to be long range, and its equipped to be short. You spend 28pts alone on weapons, that mean to get close.

A shas`el in this format, is, I suppose "ok" because you want your reserve rolls and this set up is ok. However change your weapons, consider twin linking one, or giving it one weapon, a black sun filter, and a positional relay. Otherwise this is fine.

now this will be interesting.

Your crisis teams dont all have target lock do they?

can you break the three man squad down piece by piece, and tell us which has which?

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Old 06 Jun 2009, 02:07   #3 (permalink)
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Lets see...your HQ units are killing me here.

Shas`o

Do yourself a favor, drop the shield generator, and downgrade this guy to a shas`el. Just this alone will save you 45 pts.

Switch up the stimulant injector for a target array.

Shas`el (2)
-is it possible to twin link missilepods? I cant stand a positional relay unit that is meant to be long range, and its equipped to be short. You spend 28pts alone on weapons, that mean to get close.

A shas`el in this format, is, I suppose "ok" because you want your reserve rolls and this set up is ok. However change your weapons, consider twin linking one, or giving it one weapon, a black sun filter, and a positional relay. Otherwise this is fine.

now this will be interesting.

Your crisis teams dont all have target lock do they?

can you break the three man squad down piece by piece, and tell us which has which?
Well my Shas'o is a Shas'o for fluff reasons, same with his Stims. I run Shields on him because they are major weapon magnets and i hate losing them right away. Good idea on the Missile Pods.
For the suit teams, the Leader has a Fusion, a Missile Pod, and a Shield Generator, with hard wired Target Lock, Multi Tracker, and Drone Controller. The other members have Fusions, Missile Pods, and Multi Trackers.
Main plan for them is to have them deep strike into his tank base and take out 2 per shooting phase, hopefully avoiding repercussions thanks to the Shield Drones and Shield Generator.
On the second team, its the same deal except with Burst Cannons instead of Fusion Blasters. They will be taking out my opponents Heavy Weapons teams
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Old 09 Jun 2009, 18:54   #4 (permalink)
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In the fire warriors team, i suggest you remove photon grenades, because if someone assault you last thing would occur is that your team continue engaged in close combat, remember you are better at shooting this will save you some points, i think FW are great at close range, but i don't like use them to hunt tanks, also have armor 10 i destroy many light vehicles with my pulse rifles, but never at CC, i will remove emp grenades too, that is too expensive, try removing seeker some seeker missiles and change one rail head with a ion head, this is a great medium infantry weapon and can open rhinos and dreadnoughts, and remove saves for the kroots he cant save against bolters, so use the ability in cover, or use the outflank ability.

I see 2 elites slot with 3 crisis team, so if you dont think to add any other elite slot, is better to split the same model in 3 units of 2, because you may hide them better for the shots, and shield drones become this task difficult

I think with the 4 firewarriors team in devilfish should be sufficient.

I hope this help you.
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