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Old 26 Feb 2009, 12:18   #1 (permalink)
Shas'Saal
 
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Default Am I a ninja?

So normally I go with Mech Tau, but using the models I have this is my first Ninja style list.

Is it any good and would it do OK in a tournament?

I would have liked more kroot hounds in the list but I don't have any more and its a lot of metal to buy.


Unit cost: 113
XV8 Shas'el
--- [TL Missile pod, Positional relay, HW Drone controller, Shield Drone, Shield Drone]

Unit cost: 130
Stealthsuit 'ui TL
--- [Burst cannon, Drone controller, Bonding knife, Gun Drone]
2x Stealthsuit 'ui
--- [Burst cannon, Drone controller, Gun Drone]

Unit cost: 130
Stealthsuit 'ui TL
--- [Burst cannon, Drone controller, Bonding knife, Gun Drone]
2x Stealthsuit 'ui
--- [Burst cannon, Drone controller, Gun Drone]

Unit cost: 186
3x XV8 Shas'ui
--- [Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Multi-tracker]

Unit cost: 180
6x Fire Warrior 'la
--- [Pulse rifle]
Devilfish
--- [Burst cannon, SMS, Landing gear, Disruption pod, Multi-tracker, Targeting array]

Unit cost: 145
Shaper
--- []
15x Kroot
--- [Kroot rifle]
2x Kroot Hound
--- [Fangs]

Unit cost: 105
15x Kroot
--- [Kroot rifle]

Unit cost: 168
4x Pathfinder 'la
--- [Pulse C./ Marker]
Devilfish
--- [Burst cannon, SMS, Landing gear, Disruption pod, Multi-tracker, Targeting array]

Unit cost: 48
4x Gun Drone
--- [TL Pulse carbine]

Unit cost: 180
Hammerhead
--- [Railgun, SMS, Landing gear, Targeting array, Multi-tracker, Disruption pod, Target lock]

Unit cost: 115
XV88 'ui TL
--- [TL Railgun, SMS, A.S.S., HW Drone controller, Shield Drone, Shield Drone]

Total model count: 61
13 Kill Points
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 13:56   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Am I a ninja?

Yes you are a Ninja and a 1500pt Ninja. Congrats on the new path. Before I make any comments what other models do you own?
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Old 26 Feb 2009, 14:07   #3 (permalink)
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OK I have total models

1 Ethereal (will use him one day)
13 Crisis suits (no fixed weapons)
9 Stealth (all BC)
3 Devilfish
50 Fire Warriors all with rifles (Approx)
32 Kroot
1 Shaper
2 Hounds
30? Gun Drones (I think) Few shields, 2 marker drones
10 pathfinders
3 fusion blaster piranhas
3 railheads with SMS
2 Broadsides with SMS





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Old 27 Feb 2009, 07:41   #4 (permalink)
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Your HQ is rock solid and nice an cheap which is always nice.
113 - XV8 Shas'el --- TL Missile pod, Positional relay, HW Drone controller, Shield Drone, Shield Drone

Stealth Teams I would increase in size and drop the bonding knife since you will barely have them on the board. I would maximize the gun drones as they provide extra fire power and wounds, thus keeping the suits alive longer.
200 - Xv25 Stealthsuit x 4 ---Drone Controller on all of them, Gun Drones x 8
200 - Xv25 Stealthsuit x 4 ---Drone Controller on all of them, Gun Drones x 8

I have mixed feeling on how Xv8 should be equipped but their role is clear and they look solid to me.
186 - XV8 Shas'ui x 3 --- Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Multi-tracker

I would strip this squad down to the minimum. This units role should be turn 5 objective grabber, its not needed to have them shooting up squads. Use those points for other units like your stealth teams. The disruption pods are still valuable as you will not always get first turn.
145 - Fire Warrior x 6 --- Pulse rifle & Devilfish with Burst cannonLanding gear, Disruption pod

I myself don;t think the +1 to LD is worth the cost of a shaper however others do so I will repsect that one.

145 - Kroot x 15: Shaper & Kroot Hounds x 2
105 - Kroot x 15

I would drop the pathfinder completely due to their cost and not bringing much to the table. If you want 4 maekr lights we find the points and add them to the stealth teams.

I would also drop the gun drones. This reduces your kill points and I added them already back into the stealth team squads.

I don;t use them but I know they can be worth their weight in gold so it looks good to me.
180 - Hammerhead --- Railgun, SMS, Landing gear, Targeting array, Multi-tracker, Disruption pod, Target lock

I would add 1 more Broadside and make one a team leader wit a Hw Target lock. This allows them to fire independly, reduces killpoints.

200 - Broadside x 2: Both with A.S.S. & a Team Leader with Hardwired Drone Controller, Hardwired target lock, & Shield Drones x 2.

This leaves you with 16 points remaining, regretfully my codex is at work so I'm not sure if you have the points to buy your Devilfish a sms, if you are short on the points drop the kroot hounds since you are short on them anyhow. This list has 10 killpoints and 75 models.
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Old 27 Feb 2009, 08:46   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you for your comments; I've listened and followed it almost exactly to produce:

Unit cost: 133
XV8 Shas'el
--- [TL Missile pod, Positional relay, Iridium Arm., HW Drone controller, Shield Drone, Shield Drone]

Unit cost: 200
4x Stealthsuit 'ui
--- [Burst cannon, Drone controller, Gun Drone, Gun Drone]

Unit cost: 200
4x Stealthsuit 'ui
--- [Burst cannon, Drone controller, Gun Drone, Gun Drone]

Unit cost: 186
3x XV8 Shas'ui
--- [Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Multi-tracker]

Unit cost: 165
6x Fire Warrior 'la
--- [Pulse rifle]
Devilfish
--- [Burst cannon, SMS, Landing gear, Disruption pod]

Unit cost: 118
16x Kroot
--- [Kroot rifle]
Kroot Hound
--- [Fangs]

Unit cost: 118
16x Kroot
--- [Kroot rifle]
Kroot Hound
--- [Fangs]

Unit cost: 180
Hammerhead
--- [Railgun, SMS, Landing gear, Targeting array, Multi-tracker, Disruption pod, Target lock]

Unit cost: 200
XV88 'ui TL
--- [TL Railgun, SMS, A.S.S., HW Target lock, HW Drone controller, Shield Drone, Shield Drone]
XV88 'ui
--- [TL Railgun, SMS, A.S.S.]

-----------------------
Total model count: 74
10 Kill Points


Although I have 9 stealth suits 3 of them are the old style ones so I'm going to have a strange looking stealth squad with 4 suits in each, but if it works, who cares?

I'll try it out next Tuesday. I'll be against a standard 3 falcon tournament list, so I'm going right into the deep end with the way of the ninja. I'm not convinced that this style of army will work against the type of armies taken to tournaments, but I like the idea of it.

How can I kill 8 monsterous creatures or deal with plague marines and the lash with this list?

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Old 27 Feb 2009, 13:51   #6 (permalink)
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Dropping the shaper is/was a good idea since he really only is bringing +1 to your Leadership. Keep us informed and in touch on how it goes.
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