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Old 03 May 2005, 03:55   #1 (permalink)
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I've been tinkering with the idea of maximising on Devil Fishes, drawing upon a pool of mobile infantry and a complement of seekers.
What do you guys think of this:
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Plasma Rifle
Missile Pod
Multi-tracker
Fire Warriors * 2 (6)
Devilfish
Multi-tracker
Decoy Launcher
Seeker Missile * 4
Fire Warriors * 2 (6)
Devilfish
Multi-tracker
Decoy Launcher
Seeker Missile * 4
Fire Warriors (6)
Devilfish
Multi-tracker
Decoy Launcher
Seeker Missile * 4
Targetting Array
Fire Warriors (6)
Devilfish
Multi-tracker
Decoy Launcher
Seeker Missile * 4
Targetting Array
Pathfinder Team(6)
Devilfish
Multi-tracker
Decoy Launcher
Seeker Missile * 4
Targetting Array
Pathfinder Team(6)
Devilfish
Multi-tracker
Decoy Launcher
Seeker Missile * 4
Targetting Array
Gun Drone Squadren (8)

The idea is having plenty of armour that makes it difficult for the opponent to get much in, as well as a big enough pool of quick weapons as well as a fast response times. The tank-busting is almost completly dedicated to the seeker missiles, but they also go under marine busting, HQ busting, and anything else that can take some punishment.
I'm alsowondering if it's a better idea to replace the MP on my HQ for a Fusion Gun.
Any thoughts?

Oh, and this is a 1k army, actually, perfectly 1k to be exact.
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Old 03 May 2005, 04:31   #2 (permalink)
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No railguns or stealth suits? It may be a lot of vehicles but vehicles that depend upon a unit of 6 ( pathfinders ) that will hit on average 3 times per turn to launch your heavy weapons. There is a good chance more than a few of your seekers will go down with their ships before being launched.

The boost that the v4 rules gave rapid-fire weapons will not be used to full advantage with this force either,
min maxing units that are arguably one of the best buys in the game, and get the best results only when used in full squads.

Intersting concept though, and don't take my word for it until you have played a few games with it, who knows with the right scenario it could be cool ( lots of vehicles looks good too ).
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Old 03 May 2005, 05:04   #3 (permalink)
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looks a bit weak, but thats easily fixed by Dropping 2 Fish Squads and the Drones for 2 Railheads with kit and bumping the PF up to 8 a Squad, that shoudl fix any weaknesses you may have and make for quite a lethal list if I do say so ;D

dont Drop the MP, TL it, you get better range than the FB and similar odds vs light tanks so it come off better in the end IMO.
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Old 03 May 2005, 05:08   #4 (permalink)
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Another idea that went with this army is the use of so many gun drones.
Six squads of two drones, plus that one maxed squad can do a lot of damage in a huge many ways, and is annoying as hell.
As well, I am considering the idea of dropping a single FW squad to increase the number of models per vehicle.
Also, I want to try to avoid the usual HH things that most armies tend to get into. This was designed to be a reletivly unused army style. Besides, for heavy hitting, my Seekers do well, and I believe I have enough raw guns to beat down swarms to a resectable degree.
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Besides, for heavy hitting, my Seekers do well, and I believe I have enough raw guns to beat down swarms to a resectable degree.
I suggested the Rails for AV13 and 14, Seekers are ok for this, but you want those bug lazcannon tanks dead because every tank that drops your loosing seekers and I dont think you do have enough Swarm dakka.

Drones are nice, but too many deepsrikers aint so good and they arent all that great whennot DS'ing, for style its fine, but for effectiveness its a bit sub par.
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Old 03 May 2005, 05:46   #6 (permalink)
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Having 2-3 hammerheads is never a bad thing, like you defenitely need at least 1 railgun in that list. Seeing as you like tanks, you could keep most of those fishes but also add a couple hammerheads without losing any mobility. Would be an amazingly fun list to play...but it's up to you to find out how effective it is
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Definatly need some rail heads in there. I would take out both the PF and add in 2 HH or mabey even one hammer head and 3 broadsides or something. You need big firepower o keep the enemy on his toes!
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Definatly need some rail heads in there. I would take out both the PF and add in 2 HH
in case you didnt see the whole point of the list is the seekers :P Dropping 2 FW squads acheives the same, but still maintains the theme.
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Old 03 May 2005, 06:07   #9 (permalink)
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I see, well, then yes, get rid of 2 FW squads.
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Besides, for heavy hitting, my Seekers do well, and I believe I have enough raw guns to beat down swarms to a resectable degree.
I suggested the Rails for AV13 and 14, Seekers are ok for this, but you want those bug lazcannon tanks dead because every tank that drops your loosing seekers and I dont think you do have enough Swarm dakka.

Drones are nice, but too many deepsrikers aint so good and they arent all that great whennot DS'ing, for style its fine, but for effectiveness its a bit sub par.
Swarm dakka. what dose this mean???
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