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Old 02 Mar 2008, 22:26   #1 (permalink)
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Ok I'm working on building a 1500 point list(is that a good place to start??) for tau. I want your opinions. Just to tell you its not done yet.

HQ
Shas'O

drone controller (HW)
2x shield drones
multi tracker (HW)
shield generater
cyclic ion blaster (SI)
plasma rifle

ELITES
Unit 1
XV8
1x shas'ui team leader

multi tracker (HW)
shield generater
missile pod
plasma rifle
bonding knife

2x shas'ui

2x multi tracker
2x missile pod
2x plasma rifle

Unit 2
XV25
3x shas'ui

3x burst cannon

TROOPS
Unit 1 & 2
fire warriors
9x shas'la
1x shas'ui

10x pulse rifles
1x bonding knife

Unit 3
11x shas'la
1x shas'ui

12x pulse rifles
1x bonding knife

FAST ATTACK
Unit 1
pathfinders
6x shas'la
1x devilfish

6x pulse carbine/marker light

Unit 2
piranha
3x piranha

3x fusion blaster
3x targeting array

HEAVY SUPPORT
Unit 1
hammerhead gunship

1x railgun
2x burst cannons

Unit 2&3
sniper drone teams

no add-ons


Ok that's my list. Its not done yet, but it would be nice to hear your input.

EDIT: added and subtracted a few units


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Old 03 Mar 2008, 01:48   #2 (permalink)
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Well, looks like a decent list. A couple things though...
1. Drop the FB from the Stealth team. FB's are 1 shot wonders, and with BS 3, there won't be many wonders... Your 3 Piranhas, Hammerheads and Fireknife Crisis suits should kill tanks just fine.
2. I would try and drop a few points and strengthen up the FW squads. Mabye drop 1 crisis suit or the drone squadron?

Anyways, looks like a solid list. Happy gaming. 8)
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 02:01   #3 (permalink)
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I know some of the numbers are wierd(i.e. fielding teams of 10 FW) but thats because I'm looking into starting with the megaforce.Just trying to figure it to where all the numbers add up.
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 07:43   #4 (permalink)
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First of all, this would belong to the "Army Lists"-subforum...

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HQ
Shas'O

drone controller (HW)
2x shield drones
multi tracker (HW)
shield generater
cyclic ion blaster (SI)
plasma rifle
I would drop the Shield Gen and the Shield Drones - his status as an Independent Character should be ample security. This alone would bring you about 50 points for more gadgets
Furthermore, I´m not a big fan of the CIB; it is just too random imo, but that`s entirely your call.
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ELITES
Unit 1
XV8
1x shas'ui team leader

multi tracker (HW)
shield generater
missile pod
plasma rifle
bonding knife

2x shas'ui

2x multi tracker
2x missile pod
2x plasma rifle
Ah, the classic Fireknife Configuration. Again, I`d drop the Shield Gen on your Teamleader, since JSJ (=Jump Shoot Jump) should be protection enough.
Personal Note: I highly dislike the PR/MP combo on anything with less than BS5, since the hits are just too random. For me, specialisation and accuracy are key, so I would suggest fielding two specialised teams - one with Targeting Array and TL MP, the other with either PR/FB or TL PR/TA. Two specialised suits are cheaper than two Fireknives, and excel at their roles, but that`s just me.
Besides, my first army had 3 Fireknives in it, as well, so if you want, go for it.

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Unit 2
XV25
3x shas'ui

3x burst cannon
Fine so far; I field a small unit of Stealths as well.

If you`re fielding only one unit of Stealths, you might want to split your Fireknives into two smaller teams... this way, you don`t put all your eggs in one basket (or you make two specialised Crisis teams - though this is a variation of "putting all your eggs in one basket", only at a higher level ).

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TROOPS
Unit 1 & 2
fire warriors
9x shas'la
1x shas'ui

10x pulse rifles
1x bonding knife

Unit 3
11x shas'la
1x shas'ui

12x pulse rifles
1x bonding knife
Troops are fine, though I´d get some Kroot in there, and, depending on your playstyle, a couple of Devilfish.

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FAST ATTACK
Unit 1
pathfinders
6x shas'la
1x devilfish

6x pulse carbine/marker light
I`d max out the number of Pathfinders, and turn the Devilfish into a "Warfish" (by adding SMS, TA, MT, DL), just for efficiency`s sake.

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Unit 2
piranha
3x piranha

3x fusion blaster
3x targeting array
Israfel would be proud of you

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HEAVY SUPPORT
Unit 1
hammerhead gunship

1x railgun
2x burst cannons
Important note: ALWAYS add a Multitracker and a Decoy Launcher to all Hammerheads/Skyrays, and at least a Decoy Launcher on all of your Devilfish. These upgrades are the best that ever happened to our vehicles
With a Hammerhead, you also want to pack a Target Lock, which lets you engage different targets - a necessity if you have one main anti tank weapon, and two anti-infantry weapons.

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Unit 2&3
sniper drone teams
Well, basically, it is only one heavy support choice, but yeah, fine.

My only real problem with this list is its format (This is a great Frame for army lists; courtesy of Olannon (haven`t seem him around for a while...)) ;D, apart from that, it`s a nice start for a Static/Hybrid list.

The only final advice I`d like to give you is that you should find a style that suits you. IMO, you have too few mobile elements to go Mech, and too few Broadsides to play "proper" Static or Hybrid.

Don`t make the mistake to believe that Firewarriors can actually win a game for you; sure, their range looks great, but Heavy Bolters are longer-ranged; as are Destroyers and every single Heavy weapon out there (apart from the Multi-Melta, granted ) - and they are utterly useless against tanks (even against Rhinos they have problems). Like everything in the Tau army, Firewarriors are highly specialised - in this case, against Light to Medium Infantry.

You NEED the special weapons the HQ and Elite slots offer to you, and you should pack enough of them (my 1.500 points armies are run by 5-8 Crisis Suits (including HQ), and 2 Broadsides).

I sincerely hope that this was helpful; if you have any other questions, feel free to ask around - we`re here to help (apart from LGT, who is an Anti-Wargamer-debating machine. And apart from Wargamer, who is our fluff-and houserulemonkey. Aaaand apart from Songblade, who will slap you silly if you lack "propa punktuashunn" ).

Cheers,
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