[Vash]

Hello all

I have now counted the Tau models I have bought the past month and have discovered I have quite alot of it in just one month.
What I would ask you guys is what you would do with what I have in a 3000 pts Apocalypse battle, which I guess will be pretty usual where I will be playing (3000 pts in each army participating, we are usually 4 persons or more).

So on to what I have at my disposal:

Crisis suits:
19 crisis suits
These are equiped with combinations I like personally and use in my 1750 pts armies (Farsight army, crisis based)
- 1 Farsight equiped crisis
- 1 with CIB and plasma
- 6 with plasma and fusion blaster (as I love specialzed crisis teams. With this setting I have anti 2+. I dont like the common FireKnife setting... to common)
- 6 with burst cannon and missile pods (again specialized, against light infantry and light vehicles and... a hord of bullets)
- 2 with twin fusion (as I just love this setting, favourite picture in the codex is of one of the crisis with twin fusion)
- 2 with twin fusion and flamer (just because I love flamers )
- 1 with AFP and burst cannon


XV25 stealth suits:
6-9 of them (I have converted 6 of them into looking more like the Shadowsun model, and the 3 others where preassembled and I am considering of not including them unless I can convert them)

Fire warriors:
Around 36... Sadly enough... I tend to go wild on the crisis and Apocalypse things.
They are all equiped with pulse carbines as I like them better, both by its apearance and by it rules. The rules for it suits me better than the rifle.

Path finders:
12 normal ones
4 rail rifles

Gun drones:
50ish gun drones (would have been more, but some gave their life for some crazy project...)

Piranhas:
Only one left out of 7... I have converted them into some kind of monsters...

Sniper drone teams:
2 full teams

Heammerhead gunships:
7 Ships (but if I include path finders, one or two will be devilfishes instead)

And finally....

Titans:
2 Tau titans (using Warhound rules)
This is where 6 piranhas got sacked and 2 gunships.


All in all with everything included (except for one pathfinder unit as I dont have a spare ship for the moment) sums up to around 5300 pts





So my personal thoughts:

I want to include atleast one "titan" as it is a legendary entry, and can lay waste to wole units each round. Also, most likely my opponent will have titans or baneblades.

Also, atleast one Armoured interdiction cadre (3 gunships forming a "unit", giving me some special rules, such as D3+1 free markerlight hits in LoS of the command vehicle)

One Rapid insertion force (9 crisis, and 3+ stealths). This give deep strike ability with no scatter. Tank hunting madness in the rear

If possible (but not a must) Farsight and some body guards

Greatful for any ideas and thoughts you guys have.




Yours Truly

Vash

[Jormungard]

Power Gamer.

Get more troops, mate. Kroot? More Firewarriors? Gue'vesa at least?

[Tralfagar]

Which of your Crisis are Shas'Ui, Shas'Vre and Shas'El/'O?

I will single out one model though:
Shas'Vre XV-8
TL Burst Cannon, AFP, HWMT

I think it would be more efficient if it read:
Shas'Vre XV-8
TL Flamer, AFP, HWMT

It'll quickly pop in, light up some guardsmen, and promptly die. However, it should be able to take out more than what it costs in points(some quick math...50 ish points in cost?)

Which are in separate units, as well as the sizes of thsoe units?

Titan?? Use those points on Broadsides! Or more Crisis/Stealth suits! Well, if that's what you really want...

As long as your "infantry"(aka Drones, Pathfinders, Fire Warriors, Kroot, Gue'Vesa) outnumber your Battle Suits, it's fluffy enough for me. Afterall, you're using around twice the number of Fire Warriors I use in games half the point level.

[Vash]

@Jormungard

Power gamer?
Well okey mate if you say so. I got my fire warriors for 1750 pts, then I bought stuff for Apocalypse. If I want to play with a horde of fire warriors I will keep playing normal 40k. Because where I play, the comunity have alot of legandary entries, so what should those fire warriors do against baneblades, titans, flyers gargantus creatures... We play with alot of these things, as we are a comunity that stocks up on big stuff.
Remember that in Apocalypse there is no Organisation chart, many of the gamers in our comunity will make theme based armies.
One ork player is going all out kans, dreads and stompas.
Another one is going eldar flying cricus.
Terminator armies that are not deathwing.
IG tanks armies with no infatry what so ever.
Grey Knight terminator armies backup with LRCs and dreads.

For us, this is a chance to play the game in a totaly different approach.

Further notice that I didn't include. I play a renegade army, meaning I cant get any Kroots (and if your going to complain about the 0-1 hammerheads... well the 0-1 rule is lifted in Apocalypse. Its all out war).
But of course, eventually I will get more fire warriors, but they are not really priority.

@Tralfagar

All the models can be either Shas'ui, Shas'vre, Shas'El/O.
All units can be mixed in what ever combination.

the AFP crisis is a given I guess. His total points as I have him is, 68. Maybe 83 if I add positional relay.

Titan. A warhound which the titan is based on is more worth than 9 broadsides in my book. The titan can lay out (as I have them currently) two 5" templets destroyer rule, and two 7" templetes (or one 10" templete) each round. If you guys havent seen the new Apocalypse templets irl... I recomend you doing it. Its a dinner plate!
The 5" templete is the large templete in normal 40k.
The strength and AP of these weapons are insane. Destroyer weapon wounds automatically on infantry, and destroyer weapons have titan killer special rule.

Now compaired to the 9 railgun shots. The railguns can take out 9 models each round maximum, while the titan can take out a hell lot more.
The broadsides dies more easily in apocalypse, since there are so many templete weapons that will instant kill them.
The titan can repair its systems and regain its structure points/shields. Also a super heavy walker/vehicle is harder to harm than a normal vehicle/walker.

Crisis suits I allreayd have 19 of, but intend to get more, since a whant a themed army around suits and "titan" (the titan is a giant version of a battle suit).

Apocalypse isnt allways a fluffy game, its suppose to be different and fun, out of the box etc etc. How many in 40k turnaments follow fluff?


Yours Truly

Vash

[cheeseman]

Originally Posted by Jormungard

Power Gamer.

Get more troops, mate. Kroot? More Firewarriors? Gue'vesa at least?

It's apocalypse, so long as you at least have farsight it's never cheesy to max out on suits. It's just his fluff.

[Aussie_matu]

I'm with Jormungard on this one more troops, I would put in more Fire warriors.