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Old 26 Dec 2006, 03:59   #1 (permalink)
Shas'O
 
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Default Gimme a hand here please!

I need some help. This is what I've come up with for my Smoke and Mirrors Cadre so far...

2k
HQ: Commander Farsight
RETINUE
Shas’vre
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: Gun Drones 2x

Shas’vre
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: Gun Drones 2x

Shas’vre
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: Gun Drones 2x

Shas’vre
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: Gun Drones 2x

Shas’vre
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: Gun Drones 2x

Shas’vre
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: Gun Drones 2x
TOTAL: 722

HQ: Shas’O
Weapon: TL Flamers
Support: Vectored Retro Thrusters
Wargear: Failsafe Detonator
Wargear: Stimm Injector
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: 2 Gun Drones
TOTAL: 186

Elite: XV-8 Crisis
Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker

Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker

Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
TOTAL: 186

Elite: XV-15 Shas’ui
Shas’ui 6x
Weapon: Fusion Blaster 2x
Support: Drone Controllers 6x
Support: Gun Drones 12x
TOTAL 304

Troops: FW Team
Shas’la 12x
TOTAL: 120

Troops: FW Team
Shas’la 12x
TOTAL: 120

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

H Supp: Broadside Team
Shas’ui 2x
Support: Drone Controller
Support: Target Lock
Support: Shield Drone 2x:
TOTAL: 175

1993
[hr]
1.5k
HQ: Commander Farsight
TOTAL: 170

HQ: Shas’O
Weapon: TL Flamers
Support: Vectored Retro Thrusters
Wargear: Failsafe Detonator
Wargear: Stimm Injector
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: 2 Gun Drones
TOTAL: 186

Elite: XV-8 Crisis
Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker

Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker

Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
TOTAL: 186

Elite: XV-15 Shas’ui
Shas’ui 6x
Fusion Blaster 2x
6x Drone Controllers
12x Gun Drones
TOTAL 304

Troops: FW Team
Shas’la 12x
TOTAL: 120

Troops: FW Team
Shas’la 12x
TOTAL: 120

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

H Supp: Broadside Team
Shas’ui 2x
Drone Controller
Target Lock
Shield Drone 2x:
TOTAL: 175

1501
[hr]
1k
HQ: Commander Farsight
TOTAL: 170

HQ: Shas’O
Weapon: TL Flamers
Support: Vectored Retro Thrusters
Wargear: Failsafe Detonator
Wargear: Stimm Injector
Wargear: Drone Controller
Wargear: 2 Gun Drones
TOTAL: 186

Elite: XV-8 Crisis
Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker

Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker

Shas’ui
Weapon: Plasma Rifle
Weapon: Fusion Blaster
Support: Multi-Tracker
TOTAL: 186

Troops: FW Team
Shas’la 12x
TOTAL: 120

Troops: FW Team
Shas’la 12x
TOTAL: 120

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60

Troops: Human Auxiliaries
Gue’vesa’la 10x
TOTAL: 60
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I would love to hear comments and suggestions, don't hestitate to post
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Old 26 Dec 2006, 05:52   #2 (permalink)
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OK so It's pretty typical Farsight. (This is for the 2K, but a lot can apply to the other lists)

His squad seems like the epic beatdown squad it's supposed to be but I can't help but feel that a few shield drones (four or so) would just be better. The rest can have targetting arrays and the like. With the lack of markerlights BS4 is a great thing to have on the suits.

The 'O seems very out of place though I know what you intended for him to do. The failsafe doesn't work if he's just assaulting without an attached squad, and his BS is wasted with the flamers. In all honesty he'd be better off as a support commander with your static section. Missile Pods, Positional Relay, and maybe even a C&C node.

If you really want Farsight, I say remove the stealth suits. Replace them with a Monat, Iridium Armor, Stims, Twin Fusion Blasters, and two shield drones, bonded, then deep-strike him. He's solid and very tough suit to bring down. Goes well with the crazy Farsight suit business too...at least one guy has to have neurosis.

At the threat of sounding harsh, you seem to be using a loophole in the rules and not really following fluff for the Imp squads. Sure it never says you can't take humans, but that doesn't mean Farsight would. Replace them with Firewarriors...as many as you can fit.

Broadsides look great.

In the 1500, every thing looks OK but the humans...sooo un-Farsight. I have the same feeling as above concerning the stealths.
Farsight cannot be used in an army under 1500p so I'd fix up the last list a bit...
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Old 26 Dec 2006, 13:54   #3 (permalink)
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Humans would actually be very Farsight (as far as I can remember) because they captured great swathes of them in the Gulf and use them for CC

I will never drop the stealths because they do things that make me proud to be a Tau player- always.

Ok... Dropping the Failsafe and giving the points to other places.

And besides this, it isn't a Farsight army perse- it's a "counts as" army, I've got to finish writing the fluff for it.
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Actually it looks like a pretty decent list indeed.
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Old 26 Dec 2006, 23:13   #5 (permalink)
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it says in the old codex that farsight was working as a mercenary for humans.... so humans should fight with him

and farsight needs to be in 1.5k+ so you need to drop him from the 1k list
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