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Lovefist · 30 Jul 2006, 20:01

well i just registered and posted on the intro page, so i was hoping i could get some helpful hints from other tau players who are almost assuredly better than myself. i am going to post my army in microsoft excel format which is gonna show up kinda weird but the basic format is

Points cost Name Number of Units Type Wargear

i would love any help/criticism you guys could hand me, i am sure i need it. look forward to hearing from you guys soon.

points unit number type wargear special
173 Shas'o Commander 1 HQ Cyclic Ion Blaster, Misslepod TW, HW Multi-tracker, HW Drone Controller, Marker Dronex2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
140 Shas'vre Guard 2 HQ Guard HW Mutli-trackerx2, Targeting Arrayx2,Burst Canonx2, Missle Podx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
140 Kroot 20 Troops
167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker
167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker
115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
174 Crisis Suit Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite AFP,Missle Podx3,Flamerx2,Targeting Array,HW Multi-tracker,Multitrackerx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
225 Broadside Team 3S'ui Heavy S Multi-trackerx3 acute senses
155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer
155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer
115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker
105 Kroot 15 Troops

total points=1998

perfect enemy · 30 Jul 2006, 20:47

hi and welcome to tauonline ;D
well the only thing in this list that i think should be change is that the Stealth Team should drop the marker light coz it slows down the team as thay cant move and fire with it

Gairon · 30 Jul 2006, 20:55

Looks good but a few surgestions:

Commander: Why 2 markerdrones for your commander? I think the two drones would be of better use by the two stealth teams. The drones have networked markelights and the units would gain more from the drones that your commander would.

Elite: stealth teams. There is always the question if you should take 1 team of 6 suits or two teams of 3 suits. If you loose one suit in a three suit team you will have to roll for leadership (25% rule)

Troops: usually I think more than 150 points a troop choice is too much (but thats my personal opinion) you have picked the HW multi-tracker and the markerlight. Is it because you want to fire the markerlight and your rifle in the same turn? I don't know if you can do that? anyone know?

Fast attack: consider to include some pathfinders. Rail rifles and markerlights go very well together.

Heavy support: Consider picking a sniper team when fighting a lot of infantry. again: Rail rifles and markerlights go very well together.

I think thats my 2 cents

- Gairon

Lovefist · 30 Jul 2006, 21:53

well yeah i was trying to get the markerlight and rifles on my team leaders to fire at the same time. the drones where to mark more things up, i had the sky rays for a total of 12 missles to shoot so i figured more lights means more killy but again i havent played a day in my life. some of my crisis suits have flammers, thats my anti infantry, not to mention the air-bursting frag projector on one of my crisis suits. i dont really know if all of this is good or not, i really can only guess, so i am hoping you guys can keep spreading some of the greater good my direction

thanks again guys.

Vash113 · 30 Jul 2006, 23:33

Just for your information there is a sub board specifically for army lists here.

Topic Moved

zero · 30 Jul 2006, 23:34

FINALLY! someone else who understands the benefits of markerligts! 7 shots normally but with a pair of long range fusion blasters at no penalty. Also, you could trade those shots for any other markerligt benefits. this makes a unit with these a very good support unit. I prefer a shas'vre monat with a flamer, airburst, irdium armor and a HW drone controller with 2 marker drones. this makes a good unit who can just hang around enemy lines using the templates and lighting up key targets.

MechTau · 31 Jul 2006, 02:03

173 Shas'o Commander 1 HQ Cyclic Ion Blaster, Misslepod TW, HW Multi-tracker, HW Drone Controller, Marker Dronex2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
Drop da drones! Not only do they remove IC status, they need to be stationary.
Also, are the TL Missile pods doing so well? I would drop one for a plasma rifle. This way, you can hunt transports, infantry, and heavy infantry!
140 Shas'vre Guard 2 HQ Guard HW Mutli-trackerx2, Targeting Arrayx2,Burst Canonx2, Missle Podx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
A... bodyguard? Gasp! Um, you prbably want to delete these and replavce with 2x Helios suits as elites. (Fusion + plasma)
140 Kroot 20 Troops
A solid choice.
167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker

167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker
Dron the 'nades.

115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
Ah... take out the ML and 'vre and buy a 4th dude.
174 Crisis Suit Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite AFP,Missle Podx3,Flamerx2,Targeting Array,HW Multi-tracker,Multitrackerx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
Replace w/ 2x TL MP + TA
225 Broadside Team 3S'ui Heavy S Multi-trackerx3 acute senses
I suggest switching the multitracker for a targetting array.
155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer
155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer
Flechette discharger?! A skyray stays far away from the action... um, get a decoy launcher.
115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike
Drop the ML and the 'vre, get a 4th dude
167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker
Drop the 'nades
105 Kroot 15 Troops
Can't go wrong with these.

[hr]

My complaint is the amount of firewarriors. Trim some of them and give an existing squad a Devilfish. Your Devilfish squad should have 10 plain members.

You are also weak on anti-tank, but I'm sure you knew that.

Lovefist · 31 Jul 2006, 07:11

well the broadsides should make up some anti tank power and i thought that 12 hunter missles would nuke any other heavy armor unit, im prolly wrong, but what i want to know then is, what are hunter missles good for? if they dont pop tanks what do they do?

zero · 31 Jul 2006, 14:27

poping transports. that is what I do with mine. a volly of missles destroyes the transport followed by a submunition to take out whatever was in it.

Gairon · 31 Jul 2006, 15:45

Dont drop the markerlights. Markerlights are very very good in my opinion. Suddenly you hit everything. I love the way the drone sniperteams take out 3 SM in one turn.. that really hurts... and when your 70 point Broadside suddenly has BS5 and turns a landwarrior into a swishcheese.

30 Jul 2006, 20:01	#1 (permalink)
Lovefist Kroot Shaper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: La Verne, California Posts: 38	Help? well i just registered and posted on the intro page, so i was hoping i could get some helpful hints from other tau players who are almost assuredly better than myself. i am going to post my army in microsoft excel format which is gonna show up kinda weird but the basic format is Points cost Name Number of Units Type Wargear i would love any help/criticism you guys could hand me, i am sure i need it. look forward to hearing from you guys soon. points unit number type wargear special 173 Shas'o Commander 1 HQ Cyclic Ion Blaster, Misslepod TW, HW Multi-tracker, HW Drone Controller, Marker Dronex2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike 140 Shas'vre Guard 2 HQ Guard HW Mutli-trackerx2, Targeting Arrayx2,Burst Canonx2, Missle Podx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike 140 Kroot 20 Troops 167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker 167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker 115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike 174 Crisis Suit Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite AFP,Missle Podx3,Flamerx2,Targeting Array,HW Multi-tracker,Multitrackerx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike 225 Broadside Team 3S'ui Heavy S Multi-trackerx3 acute senses 155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer 155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer 115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike 167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker 105 Kroot 15 Troops total points=1998 __________________ 92% of teens have moved onto rap. If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music, copy and paste this into your sig. Mr. Bungle "Love is a Fist" I feel strongly about violence Love is a fist There's no effort To what's in Open faced Knuckle sandwich I feel strongly about violence Love is a fist fistloveisafistloveisafistloveisafistloveis...

30 Jul 2006, 20:47	#2 (permalink)
perfect enemy Shas'La Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: west sussex england Posts: 284	Re: Help? hi and welcome to tauonline ;D well the only thing in this list that i think should be change is that the Stealth Team should drop the marker light coz it slows down the team as thay cant move and fire with it __________________ every fool knows he can't touch the stars, but it doesn't stop a wise man from trying

30 Jul 2006, 20:55	#3 (permalink)
Gairon Shas'La Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 359	Re: Help? Looks good but a few surgestions: Commander: Why 2 markerdrones for your commander? I think the two drones would be of better use by the two stealth teams. The drones have networked markelights and the units would gain more from the drones that your commander would. Elite: stealth teams. There is always the question if you should take 1 team of 6 suits or two teams of 3 suits. If you loose one suit in a three suit team you will have to roll for leadership (25% rule) Troops: usually I think more than 150 points a troop choice is too much (but thats my personal opinion) you have picked the HW multi-tracker and the markerlight. Is it because you want to fire the markerlight and your rifle in the same turn? I don't know if you can do that? anyone know? Fast attack: consider to include some pathfinders. Rail rifles and markerlights go very well together. Heavy support: Consider picking a sniper team when fighting a lot of infantry. again: Rail rifles and markerlights go very well together. I think thats my 2 cents - Gairon __________________

30 Jul 2006, 21:53	#4 (permalink)
Lovefist Kroot Shaper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: La Verne, California Posts: 38	Re: Help? well yeah i was trying to get the markerlight and rifles on my team leaders to fire at the same time. the drones where to mark more things up, i had the sky rays for a total of 12 missles to shoot so i figured more lights means more killy but again i havent played a day in my life. some of my crisis suits have flammers, thats my anti infantry, not to mention the air-bursting frag projector on one of my crisis suits. i dont really know if all of this is good or not, i really can only guess, so i am hoping you guys can keep spreading some of the greater good my direction thanks again guys. __________________ 92% of teens have moved onto rap. If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music, copy and paste this into your sig. Mr. Bungle "Love is a Fist" I feel strongly about violence Love is a fist There's no effort To what's in Open faced Knuckle sandwich I feel strongly about violence Love is a fist fistloveisafistloveisafistloveisafistloveis...

30 Jul 2006, 23:33	#5 (permalink)
Vash113 Shas'O Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 8,194	Re: Help? Just for your information there is a sub board specifically for army lists here. Topic Moved __________________

30 Jul 2006, 23:34	#6 (permalink)
zero Shas'Saal Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: binghamton NY Posts: 229	Re: Help? FINALLY! someone else who understands the benefits of markerligts! 7 shots normally but with a pair of long range fusion blasters at no penalty. Also, you could trade those shots for any other markerligt benefits. this makes a unit with these a very good support unit. I prefer a shas'vre monat with a flamer, airburst, irdium armor and a HW drone controller with 2 marker drones. this makes a good unit who can just hang around enemy lines using the templates and lighting up key targets. __________________ I bring you reasoning to parlay on behalf of the Greater - AGH! OH DEAR AUN! THE BURNING BIO-ACID!" Sounds of Tyranids chowing down.

31 Jul 2006, 02:03	#7 (permalink)
MechTau Shas'El Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 3,432	Re: Help? 173 Shas'o Commander 1 HQ Cyclic Ion Blaster, Misslepod TW, HW Multi-tracker, HW Drone Controller, Marker Dronex2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike Drop da drones! Not only do they remove IC status, they need to be stationary. Also, are the TL Missile pods doing so well? I would drop one for a plasma rifle. This way, you can hunt transports, infantry, and heavy infantry! 140 Shas'vre Guard 2 HQ Guard HW Mutli-trackerx2, Targeting Arrayx2,Burst Canonx2, Missle Podx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike A... bodyguard? Gasp! Um, you prbably want to delete these and replavce with 2x Helios suits as elites. (Fusion + plasma) 140 Kroot 20 Troops A solid choice. 167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker 167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker Dron the 'nades. 115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike Ah... take out the ML and 'vre and buy a 4th dude. 174 Crisis Suit Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite AFP,Missle Podx3,Flamerx2,Targeting Array,HW Multi-tracker,Multitrackerx2 jet pack, acute senses, deep strike Replace w/ 2x TL MP + TA 225 Broadside Team 3S'ui Heavy S Multi-trackerx3 acute senses I suggest switching the multitracker for a targetting array. 155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer 155 Sky Ray 1 Heavy S Fletchet Discharger, Burst Cannonx2, Multi-tracker skimmer Flechette discharger?! A skyray stays far away from the action... um, get a decoy launcher. 115 Stealth Team 2S'ui 1S'vre Elite Marker Light, Multi-tracker jet pack, acute senses, deep strike Drop the ML and the 'vre, get a 4th dude 167 Fire Warriors 11FW, 1S Troops Photon Grenadesx12, Marker Light, HW Multi-tracker Drop the 'nades 105 Kroot 15 Troops Can't go wrong with these. [hr] My complaint is the amount of firewarriors. Trim some of them and give an existing squad a Devilfish. Your Devilfish squad should have 10 plain members. You are also weak on anti-tank, but I'm sure you knew that. __________________ Watch me rebuild my army! - Now with pics of my new scheme! Open invitation to all: Send me a pm, and I'll be have a look at your army list. [url=http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=11198.0]Crisis Suit Theory, Army Composition, and why Fireknives suck - You've got to read this classic by T0nka

31 Jul 2006, 07:11	#8 (permalink)
Lovefist Kroot Shaper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: La Verne, California Posts: 38	Re: Help? well the broadsides should make up some anti tank power and i thought that 12 hunter missles would nuke any other heavy armor unit, im prolly wrong, but what i want to know then is, what are hunter missles good for? if they dont pop tanks what do they do? __________________ 92% of teens have moved onto rap. If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music, copy and paste this into your sig. Mr. Bungle "Love is a Fist" I feel strongly about violence Love is a fist There's no effort To what's in Open faced Knuckle sandwich I feel strongly about violence Love is a fist fistloveisafistloveisafistloveisafistloveis...

31 Jul 2006, 14:27	#9 (permalink)
zero Shas'Saal Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: binghamton NY Posts: 229	Re: Help? poping transports. that is what I do with mine. a volly of missles destroyes the transport followed by a submunition to take out whatever was in it. __________________ I bring you reasoning to parlay on behalf of the Greater - AGH! OH DEAR AUN! THE BURNING BIO-ACID!" Sounds of Tyranids chowing down.

31 Jul 2006, 15:45	#10 (permalink)
Gairon Shas'La Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 359	Re: Help? Dont drop the markerlights. Markerlights are very very good in my opinion. Suddenly you hit everything. I love the way the drone sniperteams take out 3 SM in one turn.. that really hurts... and when your 70 point Broadside suddenly has BS5 and turns a landwarrior into a swishcheese. __________________

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