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Old 27 Jul 2005, 12:41   #1 (permalink)
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Codex Space Marines
p. 46

This has to do with "Shrike's Wing".

It says:

Shrike may lead a squad of Raven Guard veterans that he has trained personally.

It also does not stipulate that the squad can or can not be given any additional wargear, skills, and lastly it does not stipulate if the additional Lightning Claw attacks are included on their profile, or if they gain an additional attack for the 2 close combat weapons.

Basically this boils down to a few questions:

Can I give them Terminator Honors like I would other veteran squads?
How many attacks do they have before a charge 2 (like on profile) or 3 (for two CCW's)?

Now I don't really care either way if I can give them the upgrades (I mean, they're already 51 points each) I just want to know my options and make sure I play them correctly.

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Old 27 Jul 2005, 13:55   #2 (permalink)
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No I don't think you can give them upgrades as everything is already set down for them. They are as Shrike wants them so I don't think so, no.

Attacks for two CC weapons aren't included in profiles and in the rare occasions when extra attacks from equipment are included they are put in brackets. Or it will state that the extra bonus' have been included in the profile.

So, 3 attacks normally, 4 on the charge.
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It also does not stipulate that the squad can or can not be given any additional wargear,
In any other case where a unit can take additional weapons or wargear, it specifically says so in the unit description. Since there is no option listed to take anything else, then I would have to say no, you can't.

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skills,
Shrike's Wings already have Infiltrate, Scout and Stealth, but there are no options to take any more skills. :

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it does not stipulate if the additional Lightning Claw attacks are included on their profile, or if they gain an additional attack for the 2 close combat weapons.
Extra attacks from second hand weapons are not normally included in the basic stats of a unit or character. Since it does not say that the attacks are included, they must not be (so they get +1 attack for the second Lightning Claw) ;D

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Can I give them Terminator Honors like I would other veteran squads?
Even though it does not say so, my guess is that they already have them, since they have 1 more attack than a normal Veteran, and they have weapons (the lightning claws) from the armoury that a normal Veteran could only take if he had Terminator Honors. In any case, it does not say you can take them, so you can't.
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