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Old 23 Nov 2008, 21:23   #1 (permalink)
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Sorry i was just wondering how do the Raven Guard recruit i herd that they used to clone their marines after the Horus inccident? Thanks.
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Old 23 Nov 2008, 22:08   #2 (permalink)
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Well they cloned their marines during the Horus Heresy. Now they recruit marines just like any other chapter.

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Old 23 Nov 2008, 22:19   #3 (permalink)
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Well they cloned their marines during the Horus Heresy. Now they recruit marines just like any other chapter.

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So simple but so helpful thanks mate.
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Old 23 Nov 2008, 22:56   #4 (permalink)
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Well they cloned their marines during the Horus Heresy. Now they recruit marines just like any other chapter.
Actually no that is wrong. The Raven Guard have never cloned their marines. Ever. After the Istvaan V Drop Site Massacre Corax used advanced zygote harvesting and implantation techniques to speed up the recovery of the Legion. These processes were dangerous and did not work very well. The Legion recovered quickly but thousands of degenerate monsters were created as well. Only 1 in 10 neophytes made with the advanced process could hold a bolter, and only 1 in 100 could become full Space Marines.

So to answer your question the Raven Guard have always recruited initiates normally just like any other Legion or Chapter.
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Old 23 Nov 2008, 23:21   #5 (permalink)
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Well they cloned their marines during the Horus Heresy. Now they recruit marines just like any other chapter.
Actually no that is wrong. The Raven Guard have never cloned their marines. Ever. After the Istvaan V Drop Site Massacre Corax used advanced zygote harvesting and implantation techniques to speed up the recovery of the Legion. These processes were dangerous and did not work very well. The Legion recovered quickly but thousands of degenerate monsters were created as well. Only 1 in 10 neophytes made with the advanced process could hold a bolter, and only 1 in 100 could become full Space Marines.

So to answer your question the Raven Guard have always recruited initiates normally just like any other Legion or Chapter.
I see, but i read this on a Warhammer wiki "Owing to the instability of the Raven Guard gene-seed and the experiments of Corax, much of the chapter's genetic stock has been irreparably damaged. Now, much of their genetic material comes from supplies held on Terra. This means the cycle of recruitment for the Raven Guard is much slower than other Chapters and fewer Raven Guard candidates for the Chapter prove able to survive their training and genetic modification. This means the chapter is constantly short-handed. "

so if they recruited normally wouldn't they recruit just as fast and as many recruits as normal chapters.

here is a link to the quote http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Raven_Guard#Recruitment
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Old 24 Nov 2008, 01:12   #6 (permalink)
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Just because recruitment is slow and dangerous for the Raven Guard doesn't mean it isn't normal so to speak. Plus lexicanium and wikipedia are NOT good sources of hard information. Because they can be edited by anyone the information is often skewed or outright false.

That said the "normal" benchmark is also pretty wide and varied. The Ultramarines for instance draw recruits from all across Ultramar, so have a surplus of available candidates even at the worst of times. The Blood Ravens recruit from many worlds and have lost quite a few of them recently for one reason or another bleeding the Raven Guard's 10th Company pretty dry. The Blood Angels recruit from tribesmen of Baal's moons, who often show a significant ammount of minor mutation due to the immense ammounts of radiation. Yet all of these are basically "normal" or average all things considered. You have to get really wierd before going out of bounds. Cloning is downright forbidden, and the Exorcists have 3 Scout Companies and part of their initiation ritual is to summon a daemon into the flesh of the initiate for a short time and then banish it. The recruit has to just stay sane and well not explode to pass the test but thats easier said than done and certainly very unusual for Astartes.

But again no the Raven Guard do not use the accelerated process anymore or clone anything so in most respects their recruitment is "normal" or as normal as Space Marine recruiting ever is.
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Old 24 Nov 2008, 06:02   #7 (permalink)
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But the point remains the same. Raven gaurd recruit just like any chapter.
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Old 24 Nov 2008, 16:21   #8 (permalink)
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Just because recruitment is slow and dangerous for the Raven Guard doesn't mean it isn't normal so to speak. Plus lexicanium and wikipedia are NOT good sources of hard information. Because they can be edited by anyone the information is often skewed or outright false.

That said the "normal" benchmark is also pretty wide and varied. The Ultramarines for instance draw recruits from all across Ultramar, so have a surplus of available candidates even at the worst of times. The Blood Ravens recruit from many worlds and have lost quite a few of them recently for one reason or another bleeding the Raven Guard's 10th Company pretty dry. The Blood Angels recruit from tribesmen of Baal's moons, who often show a significant ammount of minor mutation due to the immense ammounts of radiation. Yet all of these are basically "normal" or average all things considered. You have to get really wierd before going out of bounds. Cloning is downright forbidden, and the Exorcists have 3 Scout Companies and part of their initiation ritual is to summon a daemon into the flesh of the initiate for a short time and then banish it. The recruit has to just stay sane and well not explode to pass the test but thats easier said than done and certainly very unusual for Astartes.

But again no the Raven Guard do not use the accelerated process anymore or clone anything so in most respects their recruitment is "normal" or as normal as Space Marine recruiting ever is.
Right well do you mind if i ask where you got all your infomation please. I enjoy reading stuff like that.
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Old 24 Nov 2008, 16:47   #9 (permalink)
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Index Astartes articles mainly =)
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Index Astartes articles mainly =)
Yea for the Raven Guard thats mainly all there is. The Comprehensive Article for the RG in the Librarium has a list of references as well as more information btw.
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