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Old 05 Aug 2007, 22:31   #1 (permalink)
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Default ROSEN KNIGHTS DISCUSSION

Ok the First order of business: What chapter of space marines should the TO dedicated chapter be?


Me and Methelas were talking and we came up with this:
The Chapter, will be a successor Black Templars Chapter, while Grismunds company will be a 'specialists; company (because he wants more dakka) Which will use the Honor thy wargear, and take the fight to them traits.
All of the unit names will follow the names stated in Codex: Black Templars while Gris's devestators will be giveen a different name than devestators to increase their individuality.


What do my fellow members embarking on this project think of this?



Also what do the regular members think of this because we are representing you!

Members are still able to join the project, we need 4more company leaders!
ideas, comments and criticism are welcomed

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Chapter Name suggestions:
Rosen Nights

Chapter Symbol Suggestions:
Greek symbol for tau (T)
blade wrapped in roses
inverted T with roses wrapped around it.


Chapter color suggestions:
Dark Red and silver main colors, with varying accents (the edge of the shoulder pad for example) To denote what company they are apart of.
Black.
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Old 05 Aug 2007, 23:35   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: TO CHAPTER: first issue what chapter?

What codex are we going to be basing from? Black Templars, or regular Space Marines with traits?

The main reason why I ask is that Black Templars don&#39;t follow the Codex Astartes period (most popular use: toilet paper), and their Fighting Companies reflect this. Most of them number more than 100 marines, are a mix of neophytes and initiates, and they (fluffily) form and disperse on an ad hoc basis. Plus, there are usually more than 10 companies at a time.

Also, I have a more personal reason: I already play Templars. I don&#39;t really want to have a second group of them that are simply painted differently. If I&#39;m going to play with Templar rules, I&#39;d prefer the models be my Templars; does that make sense?
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Old 05 Aug 2007, 23:50   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: TO CHAPTER: first issue what chapter?

Well, It will abse on ten because it&#39;ll be easier to move things along. And Well, I don&#39;t think templars have companies they have fleets numbering about 100-200 but we will base ourselves 100-150.

Concerning the codex, we will use Black Templars Rules but act as predecessors from them, There will be no differences what so ever except for Gris&#39;s Fleet.

As for a color scheme, maybe we should keep the same color scheme to not confuse each other, after all we are Templars
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Default Re: TO CHAPTER: first issue what chapter?

Well, that&#39;s exactly what I&#39;m saying, they&#39;d be Templars. I already have one Templar army, I don&#39;t want a second. Maybe it means that I&#39;ll need to do a specialist company too, but I seriously don&#39;t want to have two sets of figures that play by exactly the same rules. It just doesn&#39;t appeal to me.

As for the color scheme, we shouldn&#39;t keep it exactly the same, because then we&#39;d just end up being a crusade of Templars, as opposed to successor Chapter. We should keep it similar, to show parentage, but not the same.
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Old 06 Aug 2007, 00:20   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: TO CHAPTER: first issue what chapter?

Yeah since you have a Templar army already, you can do a &#39;specialist&#39; co. using codex traits.
(You and Gris will be something like the ravenwing and deathwing of the chapter)

And it will be a successor Templar chapter, so they will have a different color scheme.

To explain that they are a successor Templar army, lets say that the inquisition was getting pissy and the Templars didn&#39;t want trouble so they sent x number of marines to form a new chapter all together.


This is just a really quick explanation for that.

Also I figure this should be in here:

What Should be the chapter name?
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Ok, thanks. I&#39;ll get back to you on exactly what traits, but again, thanks.

As to the name, do we want it to refer back to TO ("TO Marines"?), or shall it be "The [insert Chapter name here], the Chapter of Tau Online"?

Here&#39;s an idea. The =I= gets ticked at the Templars, so the BTs, not wanting a fight (strange, yes), send 300 marines off to form their own chapter. They become the "Brotherhood of 300" but eventually grow to the size of a codex chapter. Or alternatively, the Templars send 1000 or so marines, they don&#39;t get named for a while, then they fight some major action that reduces them to exactly 300 marines. The "chapter master" is amongst the survivors and declares them the "Brotherhood of 300" and then they rebuild to full strength. Their symbol is the lower-case "t".

Reasoning behind it: the Greek letter Tau has a numerical value of 300 (interesting how that&#39;s also the name of a Greek-themed movie...), and it is the modern "T".

That&#39;s just my thoughts and what I could come up with in 5 minutes.
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I think the Chapter name should be

Black Templars. Because nontheless they will always be on the crusade. Besides the Templars haven&#39;t donated it&#39;s geneseed for a while as well. So it would be best to keep it to the chapter itself.
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No problem, I wouldn&#39;t want to collect 2 of the same armies either.

And it will be The [insert Chapter name here], the Chapter of Tau Online

And I will save that fluff you made, it sounds great!

Black Templars is not creative at all, so it will have to be a whole new chapter name, like something that gos along with titan killers idea. (individuality is needed)


also to go along with the 300 thing, a 300 man crusade force got lost in the warp and wound up somewhere acting as a ghost chapter&#39; like LotD until it grows large enough later...but we will decide the fluff parameters later.
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No. No, oh god, no, no 300 references. By the Emperor, that has got to be the most overused theme.

Well, how about the Rosen Knights? It sounds good (to me), keeps with the knight theme of the BT, and makes for a really cool chapter badge (rose overlaid on a sword).

As for the colour scheme, here&#39;s what I suggest should you take my name suggestion: use a combination of silver and dark red. For instance, red shoulder pads with silver covering the rest of the model (I use Boltgun Metal for colours like that).
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No. No, oh god, no, no 300 references. By the Emperor, that has got to be the most overused theme.
No dude, its not a reference to 300 the movie. I looked up the word "Tau" on wikipedia and it says that the numerical value of Tau is 300 (I have absolutely no clue why, or what it means). So I wanted a way to tie it back to TO. Hence they use the "Tau-symbol" as their emblem, kind of like the Ultramarines use the inverted Omega. And by a "major action", I mean a war or a crusade, not a single battle. And then it goes with the article "DIY Chapters" that Vash wrote (I think it was him), about not naming your chapter until after its first major action or two.
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