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Old 21 Jul 2007, 08:05   #1 (permalink)
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I'm wondering if anyone with a marine codex could help me; ok so I don't even collect marines but I often play a friend who does. The problem is he never has a proper army list and I'm not sure how he can fit so many units into his army. The question I put to you: is it possible to run the following in a standard 1500 points match?

A trait which allows him to have apothecaries in every infantry squad

10 tactical marines with seargent, plasma cannon, melta gun

10 tactical marines with Sergeant, flamer, lascannon

10 tactical marines with heavy bolter, Sergeant

10 assault marines with 3 plasma pistols, Sergeant with power fist, 2 storm shields

land raider with twin linked lascannons, twin linked heavy bolter, smoke launchers, hunter killer missile

whirlwind with hunter killer missile

predator with twin linked lascannon, 2 heavy bolter's (sponson), hunter killer missile, smoke launchers

force commander with terminator armour, lightning claws

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Old 21 Jul 2007, 09:04   #2 (permalink)
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What army is he playing, a do it yourself ?

In any case he's quite a bit over in points, the Sergeants are replaced by Apothacaries, and he can only get one storm shield in the assault squad.

I recommend having him bring his army list complete with points break downs along with his codex before you play again. If he insists on playing that list take your army to 2000 points and claim it's a legal 1500 point army... no one likes playing against a cheater.
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Old 21 Jul 2007, 09:16   #3 (permalink)
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Jeez no wonder I keep loosing. Unfortunately I can only run 1500 points so I'll either not play him anymore or sit him down with a codex and help him write an army list. Thanks for the quick response and help.
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Old 21 Jul 2007, 17:08   #4 (permalink)
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Actually if I added things up right he's 57 points over. This may be more of a tactical problem or possibly terrain distribution problem. 57 points over is an advantage but its not a game breaking advantage. If he dropped the vehicle upgrades and the extra storm shield he'd make his 1,500 point limit. What list are you using? That should help us give you some advice on how to beat him.
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Old 21 Jul 2007, 17:18   #5 (permalink)
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I added it up, he's over by quite a bit.

10 marines, veteran apothecary sargeant, plasmacannon, meltagun-220pts

10 marines, apothecary sargeant, flamer, lascannon-211pts

10 marines, apothecary sargeant, heavy bolter-195pts

This is where the list gets a little odd.

10 assault marnines, 2 plasma pistols
Veteran apothecary sargeant with plasma pistol, powerfist, and storm shield(Two apparently, and he has FOUR one handed weapons, one duplicate)-305 pts, unless he had a combat shield, then it's 295pts

Oddness over

Commander, terminator armour, twin lightning claws-115pts

Land raider, smoke launchers, HK missile-268pts

Whirlwind, HK missile-100

Predator Annihilator, HB sponsons, HK Missile, Smoke launchers-148pts

1562pts, 1552pts if he had combat shields, making his sargeant legal, the squad still wouldn't but the sarge would. My math may be a bit off though.
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Old 21 Jul 2007, 17:19   #6 (permalink)
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im confused. isnt there a 2 plasma pistol limit in an assault squad? furthermore according to the codex a power fist can only be taken by a model in terminator ARMOUR. The sgt may only be given the honours. Or do the honors make him able to use "terminator only" equipment?
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Old 21 Jul 2007, 17:34   #7 (permalink)
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power fists are not terminator only equipment, anyone with access to the armory may take them

Does the sarge have the pp? if he does then it is all right
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Yes a sergeant can take a Plasma Pistol putting 3 in the squad, I usually do this myself.
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Old 21 Jul 2007, 21:41   #9 (permalink)
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Ok, so its not points (boy do I feel silly :-[)

I run mech/hybred tau and I already have a feeling of what I did wrong; hiding my devilfish's behing cover because I was worried about his lascannons when they should have been running up his flank and isolating his squads.

One thing I forgot to add was alot of his squads had melta bombs and a couple of power sword/fist sargants.
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