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Old 11 Jul 2007, 22:14   #1 (permalink)
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I have heard and seen the Pred variants listed below;

1)Twin-linked lascannon with heavy bolter side sponson

2)Autocannon with heavy bolter side sponson

2)Twin-linked lascannon with lascannon side sponson

But I never seen this particular variant before; Autocannon with lascannon sponsons. What makes it so special compared to the rest? Is it better? worse? Cheaper?

I really need to know.

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Old 11 Jul 2007, 22:19   #2 (permalink)
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I have heard and seen the Pred variants listed below;

1)Twin-linked lascannon with heavy bolter side sponson

2)Autocannon with heavy bolter side sponson

2)Twin-linked lascannon with lascannon side sponson

But I never seen this particular variant before; Autocannon with lascannon sponsons. What makes it so special compared to the rest? Is it better? worse? Cheaper?

I really need to know.

I think it's because if you're going to set it up for anti-tank then it's best to specialise as you won't be moving anyways. I can see this particular variant being useful against eldar skimmers but not much else, and even for that marines have better things to use. I'd like to see how people use them (if any do), as it's an interesting configuration.
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Old 11 Jul 2007, 23:21   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by doodle bug
I have heard and seen the Pred variants listed below;

1)Twin-linked lascannon with heavy bolter side sponson

2)Autocannon with heavy bolter side sponson

2)Twin-linked lascannon with lascannon side sponson

But I never seen this particular variant before; Autocannon with lascannon sponsons. What makes it so special compared to the rest? Is it better? worse? Cheaper?

I really need to know.

As EmblazonedMauveGearbox puts it, it is a specialization of the role the Predator would occupy in the game.

1) The twl lascannon/heavy bolter is an average build I have seen often. It is not specialized towards any specific target. It is more of an all-coming configuration.

The bolters to help with any infantry and the twl lascannon to go tankhunting.

2) The Autocannon with heavy bolters is a very good build against infantry and light armour. It is a very mobile gun-platform handing out
eight shots a round with an average AP and STR.
Even if the AP is only average, it still has the amount of shots and STR to be a threat against even power armour. It can easily decimate enemy squads.

3) The las/las is strangely one of the rarer configurations I have seen. I'm not sure what experience others have with it, but I find it rare.
It is a very good tank hunter build. Three lascannons combined with a good BS and twin linked can easily be a threat to any armour.
But therein lies also the problem. It is an "Avatar of Fire-Magnets". It's cost is a little large and it would be disabled rather early in the game.
It also need to keep still in order to fire all guns.

The two other configurations are not specific threats in the game. There are many other targets that might be just as dangerous.
But las/las is just too dangerous to let live longer then second round.

It also has a weakness when faced with large numbers/horde armies. The amount of shots are just not enough to effectively make a dent in the opponents infantry. Sure, it could be nice to pick off monstrous creatures/odd tanks etc. but the two other builds could be just as good at that, and even be able to take on the infantry as well.

The fourth configuration is quite decent, the las/auto. I use it. Even though it is not that special.
Lascannon sponsons with Autocannon turret.

It might not be as effective as las/las or have the shots as las/heavy bolter, It is not too specialized either.
It has a slightly lower cost than the other las builds, and with the Marine BS it hits on the majority of rolls.
Lascannons are always a threat and by keeping the Autocannon instead of antoher lascannon you keep this cost down.
It's a combination of light vehicle hunting/tank hunting.
In general, a vehicle killer.

But it has almost the same weaknesses as las/las except, perhaps one thing. It is not regarded by opponents as a threat the same way las/las or auto/heavy bolter is. It's that odd vehicle in the back of the table taking pot-shots. And not important enough to deal with right away.
Which is often a fatal mistake.

The build is not good/bad. It all depends on what opponent you are facing. But I'd say it is not effective just against eldar skimmers. Orks, Dark Eldar and Imperial guard also have many vehicles with low AV which is vulnerable to both autocannon and lascannon...and heavy bolters...

I hope I cleared it up a bit for you.

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Old 12 Jul 2007, 06:38   #4 (permalink)
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my favorite combo is the heavy bolter and autocannon 8)personally though i dont fight many tank heavy armys but ive found this combo to be very useful against orks and inperial guard and tyrannid ;D. also with the lower point cost ive found that enemys will be going for more pointheavy units and leave him alone for a few turns at least enough to get a few shots off though the lascannon and autocannon sounds fun and would like to try it out ;D

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Old 17 Jul 2007, 15:06   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks guys.

Now I know....now I know.
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Old 17 Jul 2007, 16:51   #6 (permalink)
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I use the lascannon+autocannon combo - if only because I wanted a tank-killing unit and I thought it more sensible to have 2 lascannons instead of 1 twin-linked one, and I didn't have enough leftover points to by the Lascannon turret as well. It's proven very useful for murdering Crisis suits.
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