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Old 15 Nov 2006, 19:31   #1 (permalink)
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Default Lightning Claws + Powerfists.

Hey Guys,

Im really stuck on this and Ive checked the codex a fair few times in search of an answer, Ive checked here aswell but my search gave empty results unfortunatly, so without further adue...

I have a captain for my newest chapter creation and as current he stands :

Captain
Terminator Armour
Terminator honors (Free)
Storm Bolter

Now this is the bit that confuses me.
I want to equip him with a chain fist / powerfist or lightning claw, but im confused on the rules for the 3 of them...I know a powerfist doubles strength and reduces initative to 1 but what about the other 2.

Chain fists give 2d6" against armour but I dont know if they double strength and reduce ini again, same with the lightning claw, I know you can re-roll missed to wounds but what about armour pen, strength and ini.

Ive probably screwed up the wording but I can think of which to equip me captain with, the chapter is meant to be 'young' and gaining experience.
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Default Re: Lightning Claws + Powerfists.

The Chainfist doubles strength + 2d6 penetration at initiative 1. Lightning Claws re-roll wounds (think of it like it's master-crafted), and if you have two of them add a second attack, and it's only a power weapon so strength stays the same as does initiative. For complete information consult page 46 of the Warhammer 40,000 4th Edition Rulebook. Hope I helped!
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Old 15 Nov 2006, 19:39   #3 (permalink)
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They all work the same as a standard powerfist but chainfist gives you 2D6 armor penetration and lightning claws allow you to re-roll failed 'to wound' rolls.
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Ah thanks guys, Would it be advisable to give him a lightning claw to keep his ini? or a chain fist?
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Will he be hunting tanks or troops?
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Troops, of course. A pair of lightning claws are great for a Master, since you're not already paying for a weapon (chaplain's crozius or librarian's force weapon). However, keep him cheap.

As for this specific Master, drop the storm bolter for a second claw. The extra attack is many more times valuble than a few bolt-shots.
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They all work the same as a standard powerfist but chainfist gives you 2D6 armor penetration and lightning claws allow you to re-roll failed 'to wound' rolls.
Wrong.

The powerfist and chainfist work in the same manner. Additionally the chain fist gives +1 D6 for armour penetration (for a total of 2D6+8)

A lighting claw is a power weapon that lets you re-roll to wound rolls. It is in no way the same as mastercrafting.
Dual lighting claws + terminator armour would indeed be a good and effecient combination to give to a master.
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Hes not a master yet, only a captain, Im going to use victory points before I make him a master as the chapter is still young in creation....only a few hundred strong.

My idea was to give him a Term HQ Com Squad but I soon found out its a massive point sink. I need to think of a new tactic for him.
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They all work the same as a standard powerfist but chainfist gives you 2D6 armor penetration and lightning claws allow you to re-roll failed 'to wound' rolls.
Wrong.
Yeah, I just realized that.
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does that mean lightning claws get to strike at normal ini and are strength 8? what a bonus!

Wheres the mighty Mal when you need his tactical advice....
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