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1850 Marines for RTT this weekend. Please help!
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Old 17 Jul 2006, 21:43   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1850 Marines for RTT this weekend. Please help!

This is an 1850 list for an RTT this weekend. I'm trying to get some feedback as to whether this list will stand a chance. It's supposed to be fluffy however, so I'm not trying to make a really strong list, just something that won't lose on turn two.

Keep in mind these are about all the models I have to work with, so any changes are going to be to wargear or reorganization. I know I lack long-range anti-tank, which is what the meltas and powerfists are for. Should I give the Devs tank hunter?

Traits

Advantage - Uphold the Honor of the Emperor

Disadvantage - Have Pride in Your Colors

HQ

Master - 145 - Powerfist, Storm Bolter, Terminator Honors, Iron Halo.

10 Marines - Command Squad - 236 - Vet. Sergeant w/Power weapon, Apothecary, Company Champion, meltagun, flamer.

Reclusiarch - 111 - Bolt pistol, Jump pack, Bionics

Elites

Ven. Dreadnought - 130 - Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor.

Troops

10 Marines - Tac Squad - 190 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, meltagun

8 Marines - Tac Squad - 151 - Vet Sergeant w/Power weapon, flamer

10 Marines - Tac Squad - 185 - Vet Sergeant w/Power weapon, plasmagun

8 Marines - Tac Squad - 165 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist & Combat Shield, meltagun

Fast Attack

10 Marines - Assault Marines - 280 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, Meltabombs, 2 Plasma pistols

Heavy Support

6 Marines - Devastators - 170 - 4 Missle Launchers

Whirlwind - 85 - Castellan Missles

Total - 1848



Alternatively, I have this list:

HQ

Master - 150 - Powerfist, Storm Bolter, Bionics, Terminator Honors, Iron Halo.

10 Marines - Command Squad - 236 - Vet. Sergeant w/Power weapon, Apothecary, Company Champion, meltagun, flamer.

Elites

Ven. Dreadnought - 130 - Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor.

Terminators - 245 - Assault Cannon, Cyclone.

Troops

10 Marines - Tac Squad - 190 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, meltagun

10 Marines - Tac Squad - 190 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, plasmagun

8 Marines - Tac Squad - 173 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist & combat shield, meltagun, frag grenades

Fast Attack

10 Marines - Assault Marines - 280 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, Meltabombs, 2 Plasma pistols

Heavy Support

6 Marines - Devastators - 170 - 4 Missle Launchers

Whirlwind - 85 - Castellan Missles

Total - 1849
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Old 17 Jul 2006, 23:57   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 1850 Marines for RTT this weekend. Please help!

since you said that the majority of changes would have to be cosmetic as you don't have the models, I would go with the second list. But I would lose the whirlwind, return the chaplain to active duty, lose a marine from each of the 10 man strong squads (maybe 2) and add a marine or two to your devastator squad.

also if you can swing it take the powerfist from the commander and switch it with the power sword that the veteran sergeant has in the command squad. You really shouldn't waste the higher Initiative that the commander has.

Also, this is personal preference, but lose the flamers. by the time they come into "range" you would have been able to kill more of the enemy with shooting over the 2 or so previous turns than you will be able to kill with the one turn of firing the flamer. But again, that is just a personal opinion, if you really like them then its your army.
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Old 18 Jul 2006, 00:46   #3 (permalink)
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How's this look? 60 Marines, 53 with a +6 invuln against shooting.

HQ

Master - 150 - Powerfist, Storm Bolter, Bionics, Terminator Honors, Iron Halo.

10 Marines - Command Squad - 236 - Vet. Sergeant w/Power weapon, Apothecary, Company Champion, meltagun, flamer.

Reclusiarch - 111 - Bolt pistol, Jump pack, Bionics

Elites

Ven. Dreadnought - 133 - Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers.

Terminators - 245 - Assault Cannon, Cyclone.

Troops

8 Marines - Tac Squad - 160 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, meltagun

8 Marines - Tac Squad - 160 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, plasmagun

8 Marines - Tac Squad - 173 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist & combat shield, meltagun, frag grenades

Fast Attack

10 Marines - Assault Marines - 280 - Vet Sergeant w/Powerfist, Meltabombs, 2 Plasma pistols

Heavy Support

8 Marines - Devastators - 200 - 4 Missle Launchers

Total - 1848

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Old 18 Jul 2006, 01:08   #4 (permalink)
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Looks good.

I take it that you can't swap the commanders powerfist for the veteran sergeants power sword huh?

otherwise a nice list. Hope you enjoy yourself (don't have any tournaments around where I'm at)

good luck ;D
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Seeing on how you took flamers and melta guns, it appears you will be attempting to get into combat pretty quickly. If that is the case, might I suggest that you drop the Apothecary, as once you are locked in combat he loses the ability to use his Narthecium and Reductor.

Also, as Howl has suggested, you really ought to swap the Veteran's Power Weapon out with the Master's Power Fist. It's quite a waste of his superior Initiative.

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Old 18 Jul 2006, 01:39   #6 (permalink)
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I know I lose the initiative, but I like having the powerfist hitting on threes. Plus I like how the commander came out. (I'll post pics when he's finished)

The command squad usually takes a few turns to make it to combat, and in almost every game the apothecary has paid for himself.
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I know I lose the initiative, but I like having the powerfist hitting on threes. Plus I like how the commander came out. (I'll post pics when he's finished)
I completely understand.

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The command squad usually takes a few turns to make it to combat, and in almost every game the apothecary has paid for himself.
Touché! ;D
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Old 18 Jul 2006, 06:04   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help, Howloutloud and Iron Father. I finally have a list I'm happy with.

And I have ten less models I need three colors on by Saturday.
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