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Old 17 May 2006, 19:23   #1 (permalink)
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I am putting my Black Templars in Drop Pods. This list is for 1000 points and I hit it right on the dot. Please look at it and comment on the weaknesses. I have played against some DP armies so I used that to construct this list. I have some custom pods I have made and will be using them.
Using Up Hold the Honor of the Emperor

Reclusiarch –BP, Rosarius, Crozius Arcanum, Crusader Seals, Frag
Points 97

Emperor’s Champion- Fixed Up Hold the Honor of the Emperor
Points 100

Pod 001
Total Crusaders x 8, Neos x 1 (BP/CC)
Crusaders x BP/CC (x3), Bolter (x3), BP/PW, Meltagun, Frag
Total Points 197 attached Emperor Champion

Pod 002
Total Crusaders x8, Neos x 1 (BP/CC)
Crusaders x BP/CC (x3), Bolter (x3), BP/PF, Meltagun, Frag
Total Points 202 attached Reclusiarch

Pod 003
Dreadnought –Firestorm
Assault Cannon-Missile Launcher, Extra Armor, Smoke
Total Points 153

Pod 004
Total Crusaders x5, Neos x 5 (BP/CC)
Crusaders Bolter (x3), Heavy Bolter, Plasmagun
Total Points 171 Fire Support Unit

(Can the Heavy Bolter fire the turn it lands???)

Unit 005
Land Speeder
Heavy Bolter Assault Cannon Total Points 80

I think this should handle all types of armies, I wish I could include a flamer but I feel meltaguns and plasma would work better for heavier troops. Please give your comments thanks.

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Old 17 May 2006, 19:36   #2 (permalink)
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The Chappy and EC are gonna have to start on table, since they're not part of either of the drop pod squads, but rather independant characters.

I wouldn't mix bolters and bolt pistols in the same squad, it's just not effiecient, because either you're shooting, or assaulting.

Heavy weapons held by troops may not fire the turnyou land.
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Old 17 May 2006, 19:38   #3 (permalink)
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I am putting my Black Templars in Drop Pods. This list is for 1000 points and I hit it right on the dot. Please look at it and comment on the weaknesses. I have played against some DP armies so I used that to construct this list. I have some custom pods I have made and will be using them.
Using Up Hold the Honor of the Emperor

Reclusiarch –BP, Rosarius, Crozius Arcanum, Crusader Seals, Frag
Points 97

Emperor’s Champion- Fixed Up Hold the Honor of the Emperor
Points 100

Pod 001
Total Crusaders x 8, Neos x 1 (BP/CC)
Crusaders x BP/CC (x3), Bolter (x3), BP/PW, Meltagun, Frag
Total Points 197 attached Emperor Champion

Pod 002
Total Crusaders x8, Neos x 1 (BP/CC)
Crusaders x BP/CC (x3), Bolter (x3), BP/PF, Meltagun, Frag
Total Points 202 attached Reclusiarch

Pod 003
Dreadnought –Firestorm
Assault Cannon-Missile Launcher, Extra Armor, Smoke
Total Points 153

Pod 004
Total Crusaders x5, Neos x 5 (BP/CC)
Crusaders Bolter (x3), Heavy Bolter, Plasmagun
Total Points 171 Fire Support Unit

(Can the Heavy Bolter fire the turn it lands???)

Unit 005
Land Speeder
Heavy Bolter Assault Cannon Total Points 80

I think this should handle all types of armies, I wish I could include a flamer but I feel meltaguns and plasma would work better for heavier troops. Please give your comments thanks.

WT
Why one neo in the squads?
Why diffrent point costs for Pod001 and Pod002?
I don't think the heavy bolter can fire when you land.
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Old 17 May 2006, 20:07   #4 (permalink)
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The Chappy and EC are gonna have to start on table, since they're not part of either of the drop pod squads, but rather independant characters.

I wouldn't mix bolters and bolt pistols in the same squad, it's just not effiecient, because either you're shooting, or assaulting.

Heavy weapons held by troops may not fire the turnyou land.
Hmm, I thought they could be attached to the squads

Bolters are removed first when I take casualties, I am sure I will take some, at least three. I chose bolters because they can rapid fire.

Heavy weapons, that was what I was thinking but it is SOOo cheap.

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Points difference is for PW power weapon to a PF, Powerfist.
I had to squeeze out some points to get the Speeder in there.
Heavy Weapon, check!


Those of you that have played pods: Should I count on losing 3 marines per pod or no? I know I am losing something by putting in bolters but I am hoping to get in some shots in there, it is an all comers list and I hoped to diversify.

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The bolters can rapid fire, which is precisley why they shouldn't be mixed with bolt pistols & ccws.

If you fire the bolters you can't charge.

So either your squad fires some rapidfire bolter shots and a few pistol shells, or you fire a few pistols and charge, and then only half your guys are properly equipped for combat.

Independant characters can join squads, but they can't be "attached" to them before the game. If you want a chappy in a drop pod you'll have to give him a command squad and mount them. i don't know if the EC can deploy via drop pod (no BT 'dex)
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Well, I can't charge the turn they drop in, that is when I planed to shoot the bolters. I was counting on taking some losses and removing them from the bolter marines, but I think I may cut down on the bolters.

But I know what you mean, I was tring to be prepared for everything.

If you look at page 81 on the rule book, it states that when deploying IC, you can tell your opponent that he is starting attached to a unit. The EC just can't lead or be attached to Command squad.

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Well, I can't charge the turn they drop in, that is when I planed to shoot the bolters. I was counting on taking some losses and removing them from the bolter marines, but I think I may cut down on the bolters.

But I know what you mean, I was tring to be prepared for everything.

If you look at page 81 on the rule book, it states that when deploying IC, you can tell your opponent that he is starting attached to a unit. The EC just can't lead or be attached to Command squad.

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I think that it sound like a good idea to mix in some bolters who can rapid fire on the turn you deploy from the droppod.. you are not allowed to charge afterall.
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