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Old 25 Apr 2006, 20:24   #1 (permalink)
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Default City fight marines (camouflage against Sm but would it work)

I was reading up on the latest on the City fight and I was wondering if a sucessor chaptor was to be made for the purpose of backing up impeiral guard in city fight conditons would camouflage be okay to accept as their painting scheme?
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It's generally against Marine practice... Marines are the biggest hard-guys in the universe. They wear bright, easily-spotted colours so that, well, they get spotted.

Remember, being attacked by a Squad of Marines is akin, in modern day terms, to being attacked by a squadron of Challenger II battletanks... only Marines are more agile, smaller, and don't die as easily as a tank.
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Fluff wise it woun't work, but it would look hellacool!

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Well technicly as fluff goes so far that wouldnt work too well. However there are many cases of marine chapters diverging from codex standard action, I mean look how different space wolves are. Im sure if you wanted to do a chapter in cityfight colors you could or you could do it so that they repainted most of their armor in camo but left say a shoulder with their chapter colors, the shoulder with the chapter symbol on it or something like that.
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Fluff wise it woun't work, but it would look hellacool
Yes well I would agree with that. :

If you really wanted to there isn't anything stopping you gaming wise.

Fluff-wise however you would have to think of something convincing.
Maybe like the remnants of a succesor chapter were sent crashing into an imperial world that has been cut off from the imperium for a while and now use sneaky tactcs. The chapter learned these tactics and now uses them ??? (I'm not that great of a fluff writer)
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Maybe a chaptor where the Captain who was used to found it was basicly exiled to the new chapter to get him and his unorthodox tactics and beliefs, though while not heretical are against their norms, off of the old chapter's hands?
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Maybe the Master came from Armeggedon?

And like said, there are often huge divergence. this could be another big one.
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You could say that the captain/master and a company were cought behind enemy lines on say Armeggedon (just pulled it out of the hat but its been mentioned already) and was forced to change tactics due to the lack of reinforcements and supplies he had to steal from the enemy and adopt more sneeky urban tactics. (it worked for Shrike but luckily the Raven Guard's armor was already black... lucky him)
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I like all these ideas, so something along the lines of:

During a cityfight in Armageddon the Imperial Eagles (first name that popped into my head) were pinned down by an invasion of orks, with their Imperial Guard allies serverly low on ammo and reinforcement's tactics had to be changed, among the Space marines was chapter master Nero Septimus (also random), His marines were just made up of a comand squad, 6 tactical marines and 1 squad of scouts. Against the might ork hoard that grew each night they stood no chance. As a last idea the imperial Guard decided to use camouflage so the could sneak over the was to safely to report back to comand. The marines themselves were in their armour decorated in Red with gold trim would not be able to join them and aid them in a fire fight, giving away their position would lead to disaster and the orks would take the city in time. Nero stood before his fellow marines he saw that they where afraid that joining the imperial guard would dishonour the chapter and at the same time by not joining them they would dishonour the Emperor. "We are the Imperial Eagles, It is not are colours that tells are enemy who we are, It is are art of death we bring with us. In the Emperors name and in his faith we shall not let the city fall to the foul Xenos scum, Join are comrade's and get ready to join are battle Brothers and to then take Glory!" he raised his sword, the marines all raised their weapons in a sign of agreement. Nero lowered his sword and ripped of his cloak revealing his red armour for the last time, the imperial officer ran over bearing paint and camouflage for the armoured Giant, Nero nodded and decorated his armour, as he did so did his brethren. That night the space marines with the Guard climbed over the barricades and informed the the other squads of the forces gathering on the outer breaches of the city. That night the Imperial Eagles swept the Ork Forces aside they lost many men in the battle but those who had camouflaged their armour remained un touched almost blessed by the Emperor of man. When day broke the sun shone over the fallen ork hoard Guard marine and ork all layed fallen around the surviving teams. The Imperial Eagles chapter had been devastated it would take years for them to recover. In the years after the battle the Imperial Eagles practiced in the art of Camouflage and tactics employed by the imperial Guard, utilising these new tactics the chaptor colours had changed to Camouflage with Golden Eagles.

(Or something like that im not great at fluff)

Sounds good. ;D
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in Rogue Trader, chapter used to have different camo colour schemes.

even in modern times, the Raptors repainted their armour a dark green in order to survive better on a jungle world.

so yeah, make your own chapter that are based in a system with lots of Hive Worlds to defend or something.
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