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Old 24 Apr 2006, 21:29   #1 (permalink)
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Deltaguard Army List
Total Points:1850

HQ:165

Captain:61
Bolter

Codicier:103
Force Weapon, Fury of the Ancients

Elites:427

Veteran Squad:141
5 Veterans- Bolters
Veteran-Lascannon
Tank Hunters

Veteran Squad:141
5 Veterans- Bolters
Veteran-Lascannon
Tank Hunters

Dreadnought:145
Lascannon
Missile Launcher

Troops:759

Tactical Squad:163
Sgt and 5 Space Marines-Bolters
Rhino-Smoke Launchers and Extra Armor

Tactical Squad:163
Sgt and 5 Space Marines-Bolters
Rhino-Smoke Launchers and Extra Armor

Tactical Squad:163
Sgt and 5 Space Marines-Bolters
Rhino-Smoke Launchers and Extra Armor

Tactical Squad:135
Sgt and 5 Space Marines-Bolters
Drop Pod

Tactical Squad:135
Sgt and 5 Space Marines-Bolters
Drop Pod

Fast Attack:180

Land Speeder Squadron:180
2 Standard Land Speeders
1 Land Speeder Tornado

Heavy Support:320

Predator Destructor:110
Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Predator Destructor:125
Lascannon Sponsons

Whirlwind:85

Some changing. Just want to know how you think the army is, and any suggestions. I dislike making an army and just using it-I like to be more sure about it, so here I am asking for suggestions. Thanks in advance.
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I like it, it's a very mobile army. i cant really say much else, it looks to me like a very effective list. Enough anti tank to protect your troops and enough mobility to get the the weak points/objectives.

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Well, I would not use that many minimized squads. They are way too easy to take out and is a lot to cope with on the table.
The veterans are put in a way which they don't exel. Far away with a single antitankweapon. You want to kill enemy tanks early and effective, you give the veterans a multimelta and a plasma gun for range. They will rmain stationary anyway. Also the squads are too small. A full and infiltrating veteran squad would wreak havoc in any enemy force. It would also be wise to support them with an CC veteran squad, or an infiltrating command squad.
Further, it would ba a waste of points to put such small tac. squads in a rhino each. Fill up the squads a little, and give them some special weapons. Meltas would do good.
And give the Captain a power weapon with a bolt pistol.
I would say your heavy support is, bang on target. Great for staying behind the main force and throw hell at the opponent.
This may sound as quite some criticism, but it is only my opinion. I hope you find it useful.
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i think the point of the minimised squds with their own rhinno is so that they can be put where they need most. Each squad can be doing something different. if each squad has it's own rhino, it can get the the point of crisis first.
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i think the point of the minimised squds with their own rhinno is so that they can be put where they need most. Each squad can be doing something different. if each squad has it's own rhino, it can get the the point of crisis first.
Surely, I can understand that, but they have a way too low survivability. One rhino dead, and bang cheap vp, and very easily a unit below scoring strenght.
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The point of the small squads was to fit in more scoring units. I want to stay away from special weapons too. The Tact Squads purpose is to take objectives, not fight tanks and be a killing unit. If I gave each squad a melta, I would be in 60 points. With those points I can get another Land Speeder, upgrade 2 to a Tornado, give three Land Speeders a Multi-Melta, get 4 space marines, etc. I'd rather have my specialists do the hunting. If there is a "just in case", that means my specialists are efficeint enough and can't take care of enemies good enough for the squads to be assaulted or whatever by something big.

However, I am looking for room to add a Space Marine to each squad for a squad of 7. Usually I do this, as it gives the squad a nice numbers but isn't too much. I'd rather have more small squads than two big squads, as thats 4 more scoring units. Also, if 1 Rhino is destroyed, than 7 marines are immmobilized, not 10. Also overwhelms-they can't hit as much with shooting.

Also, the Veterans are there for cheap tank support, not assaulting. While I realize the effectiveness of a Vet Squad with full marines, this can get costly. And it doesn't fit with the rest of the army, which is a)mobile or b)shooty.

Thanks for the advice though! I appreciate it.
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