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1500 point raven guard list against tau?
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Old 19 Apr 2006, 17:09   #1 (permalink)
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1500 point raven guard list against tau? Thats what im looking for an anti tau list with raven guard. Now obviously im using shrike and his personal body guard and what raven guard are good for...ASSAULT MARINES! Im wondering what else i should use and if i deep strike them can i assault the tau first time they land unlike terminators and should i deep strike shrike or infiltrate with him?

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Old 19 Apr 2006, 17:40   #2 (permalink)
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Nope, you can't have Assault Marines charge or move immediately after Deep Striking.
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Old 19 Apr 2006, 20:16   #3 (permalink)
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Why not try making a list and then people can give you advice on it.

Right now we really don't have much to go on.

As for wether or not to infilitrate Shrike I say definitley infiltrate him. That combined with his scout move and jump pack almost Guarantee a first turn charge for him and his body guard.
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Old 19 Apr 2006, 20:57   #4 (permalink)
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Captain Shrike=175 point
5 personal body guard=255 points
5 terminators 3 armed with storm bolters and power fists and 2 armed with heavy flamers and power fists=240 points
1 tactical squad with 1 melta gun and 9 bolters=160 points
1 tactical squad with 1 melta gun,9 bolters with rhino=210 points
10 assault marines=220 points
10 assault marines=220 points
3 bikers 1 with melta gun=106 points
Predator Annhihilator with 2 lascannons as side sponsons=145

This army comes to a total of 1501 points!
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Old 19 Apr 2006, 21:48   #5 (permalink)
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Ok now we're getting somewhere!

HQ

Shrike + 5 bodyguards

This is one very expensive unit but if used properly can munch through an entire Tau unit every turn. Deploy them out of line of sight and keep em hidden! As soon as you can charge the Tau and rip em to shreds. These guys will be especially useful for dealing with hard to catch battle suits.

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Terminators

I assume these guys are deep striking? If so the Flamers aren't going to be that great because landing in a position where these can do optimum damage without having your expensive terminators scatter onto an enemy unit is difficult.
I'd take them out personally, however if you leave them in give them either some assault cannons or cyclone missile launchers. The cyclones can pop some battle suits and tanks while the assault cannon can and does litteraly chew up everything and anything.

Troops

Where are the troops? I can't find them!

Neither of these squads is going to do very well.

One squad is slow and armed with short range weapons. The tau can either simply evade this squad all game or just get bored and blow it up.

The other squad is riding in a metal coffin and has short ranged weapons. Tau will have no trouble blowing up that Rhino and leaving this squad in the same position as its buddies.

The Ravenguard are renowned for their careful planning and surgical strikes, making extensive use of scouts, so take some!

Try this

6 Scouts w/ 5 sniper rifles, 1 heavy bolter
105

6 scouts w/ bolters 1 missile launcher
88

8 Scouts w/ bolt pistols, close combat weapons, frag grenades, veteran w/ powerfist and teleport homer
145

2 Fire support squads that can deploy in terrain just over 30" from the firewarriors and still be in range and a position to deal a lot of hurt, while themselves being out of harms way and 1 squad of perfectly cabable combatants.
Put these guys on his doorstep and give him something to worry about! The seargants teleport home can ensure the terminators come down in a good position. Keep this squad away from hammerheads with railguns and missile pod suits!

Finally I'd add in one las/plas squad because they are actually fairly useful.

6 Marines w/ plasma gun, lascannon
115

Fast Attack

That's a lot of assault marines! Too many in fact.

Take out one squad and you've saved a lot of points.

Take the second squad and amened to the following

8 Assault marines, 2 plasma pistols, veteran w/ powefist
211

Cheaper than the first squad but more effective Vs. Tau.

The bikes are fine though personally I'd add 2 more bikes and an assault bike w/ multi melta.

Aditionally Landspeeders (especially tornados) would be an EXCELLENT addition to this list.

Heavy support.

1 heavy tank vs tau = smoking rubble on turn one.

Don't take this tank. Instead try this squad

8 Devestators w/ 4 heavy bolters
180

Deploy them Just over 30" from his firewarriors and have fun. Your guns outrange him, hit on 3's wound on 2's and don't allow a save. And you've got 12 Shots from the squad.

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Amazing list doctoring. My only complaint is the lack of anti-tank.
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No point in making someone's whole list for them

Just some pointers to get them going in the right direction.
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You may also want to check out the stickied topics, articles, and towards the bottom of the page the Space Marine Tactics forum. There's some great information you can find. Also, you could try searching and your bound to find some more information.

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