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Do you really believe Cypher is good or Evil?
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 01:29   #1 (permalink)
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Default Do you really believe Cypher is good or Evil?

Is Cypher really evil? Or is there good in him? The fact is he carries Lion El"Johnson's sword, but he never uses it. There must be a purpose for him. I have 3 assumptions, that i heard, One is he will awaken Lion El"Johnson, or eith kill the Emperor, or revive him. He is truly a strange charater, and only time will tell where his loyalty sides with...
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 02:22   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do you really believe Cypher is good or Evil?

I think GW just likes to watch us squirm, twitch, and cringe as they leave us on the edge of our seats about alot of fluff out there for WH40k.
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 02:48   #3 (permalink)
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Funny. We were just discussing this at my GW tonight.

Based on what I heard, he's helping IG now. I also know that there's some speculation that he may indeed be the reincarnated Emperor, after those with impure intentions in the Dark Angels. I think only time will tell.
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The funny thing is that there is no good or evil. There is Chaos or Imperium... I could argue that the Imperium is dystopian reigeme.

Prolly for the Imperium, although they don't know it.
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I guess... OOnly time will tell
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 10:52   #6 (permalink)
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Where are the rules for Cypher?* My brother is just painting him up, but he wants to actually be able to use him.* We've had a look through Codex: Chaos Space Marines and through Codex: 'Eye of Terror' but we just can't find them!
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 13:15   #7 (permalink)
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Cypher is one of the most interesting 40k characters there are right now. He's mysterious, with intentions that no one is clear on, a patron warp entity who protects him, and a holy relic dating back to the birth of the Imperium, and the Space Marines himself.

And he has an totally kick ass model to represent him as a bonus!

I don't think Cyphers loyalties lie with Chaos or the Imperium, they lie with the Dark Angels.

Cypher is 10,000 years old, he is one of the original Dark Angels who Stayed on Caliban with Luther and was corrupted by Chaos. However after Luther killed Lyon'el Johnson (Lionel Johnson) he repeneted allowing for the hope of redemption in all of the Fallen Angels.

Cypher seems to have become repentant, but doesn't seek the "forgiveness" offered by the chapters Interogator Chaplains. Instead he gathers other fallen angels to him and seeks redemption.

It is rumoured that part of his quest involves attempting to reforge the Lion sword and return his Primarch from the Immaterium.
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he's a good guy. the model for him is just too cool to be chaos. he is the only model i own from the bad guys.

P.S. the first person to start arguing about what is good and evil will be shot, you know what i mean by bad guys.
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 17:54   #9 (permalink)
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I found this on a German website through another forum. It is interesting but don't know how "truthful" the fluff is. It may answer a lot of questions as to why Cypher is trying to get to the Golden Throne.

http://grofafo.org/index.php?topic=20850.0
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 18:20   #10 (permalink)
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Definitley not official.

However very cool, fairly well written and an excellent concept.

While I don't believe it I think I may make an Inquisitor Character who does.
Its so perfectly Tzeentchian, manipulating your enemies into destroying themselves by making them think their ally is their enemy.
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