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Old 14 Jan 2006, 15:42   #1 (permalink)
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Well, one of my newbie friends(we both joined at the same time but I have more experience) wanted to play the blod Angels. He ask me what exactly are dreadnoughts? Are they cyborgs or a something like the matrix, where the biological system powers the machine. Or maybe like robocop or something.

I about to say I don't really know and check his codex, but then he ask me this: Are they as useful as a Tau battlesuit? He says that since I play tau and everyone knows crisis suits are vital in a Tau war machine.

So now my question is this :

1)what exactly are they and are they like servitors or more like they just have a bio-mechanical system?

2)Do they hold a pivotal role in a SM army?

Don't scold me for not knowing, I really don't.
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dreads are a big metal fighting machine with a marine inside. if a marine hero suffers mortal wounds, he might be put inside a dread. The dread will keep him alive (for a certain amount of time) so he can fight on.
A dread is basically a robot with a human brain.

I wouldn't say they're pivotal for marines, but they are sacred/ revered, and very useful.
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So they are beefier versions of robocops? And what do you mean for a certain amount of time?

Sacred and revered? But how useful are they in a game? ???
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Whilst Dreadnoughts can, in theory, survive for millennia, they tend to deteriorate over time. For example, Bjorn the Fell-Handed is the oldest Dreadnought in the Imperium, having fought beside Leman Russ. However, he is awoken rarely, only for ritualistic purposes, or in times of dire need... it seems, by Dreadnought fluff, that if they were not allowed to sleep away the Millennia, they would quickly "die".
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Sleep away the millenia? I don't get it. They just die or go into stasis?

And wouldn't they fix them or something if it deteorated?
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You may be able to fix a machine, but you cannot fix a body as easily... remember, the pilot was near dead to begin with.
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Are they floating in liquid in the dread or they are drilled to the walls within the dread?

And how do they die exactly? Other than battle that is...... :-\
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they are floating around in stasis, they are plugged in to wires from where they control it. in one of dan abets books a guardsmen gets a lucky shot into a dreadnaughts visor slit, killing him. this would suggest that the person inside actually looks through this slit, but that seems rather unlikely. another form of sensors would be much more useful and duarble, and when it comes to dreads SMurfs wont take any chances.

when they die its like they slowly fade away. if they dont sleep away for massive amounts of time their bodies sort of tire down, deteriorate and die. the machine itself still works, but the marine inside dies.
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Part of the deterioration is just going slightly crazy. Your stuck inb waht for all intents and purposes is a Sesnory Deprivation units except when in battle. Since marines are pretty much conditioned for near contious battle it's a problem to only be awke when needed. the other part is probably just a limitation on how long they can keep a person alive on what amounts to a very sophisticated life support rig. Eventually even witht he best care something is going to start to break down.

Still, I think such occurances are very rare. Most die in battle in which case the shell of the Dread is retrieved and prepped for the next likely candidate.
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Cool, so they are like Dragoon protoss huh? Interesting......

And like wargamer says, each one have a name, so that means it is built specifically for that person? And if you change the pilot will you change the name?

they have to go to the bathroom right? Cos they are still human.,.......
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