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Landspeeders! Are they really worth it?
View Poll Results: Are landspeeders worth thier cost in a standard army?
Yes, I suggest all assaulty armies get one 6 23.08%
Yes, but only if used in the right army 16 61.54%
Yes, but only Tornado/ Typhoon patterns 3 11.54%
No, too expensive for Armour 10 1 3.85%
No, only for BA! 0 0%
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Old 29 Nov 2005, 19:49   #1 (permalink)
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Default Landspeeders! Are they really worth it?

Well, I have a 1500 Black Templars army, and I do not own a Landspeeder. I was contemplating purchasing a nice Multi-melta armed suicider to deep strike and take out some tanks.

is it worth it for my points cost? I am planning to go to 2000 with the battle-force, and I really wanted to include a Landsppeder and a new BT assault squad.

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No?
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Old 29 Nov 2005, 20:15   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Landspeeders! Are they really worth it?

I'd say...pumpkin O0

Anyway, there really good. A squad of 3 tornado varients are awesome. 3 Heavy Bolters and 3 Assault Cannons! This pumps out an amazing 21 shots! And not to mention that the firepower itself is good! But the norm. varient and the Tornado varient are short ranged, and you'll have to watch out for anything S5 and up on hitting you :-\

Not absolutly every army could use one, but they are worth it if they fit in good. They are primarily good at reacting to infantry threats quick and good. Make great infantry killers, and if given multi-meltas they make good, fast tank hunters. And for the cheap points cost, I'd say take them.
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Default Re: Landspeeders! Are they really worth it?

Land Speeders are fast but fragile. You need to pick your targets well, hit them hard, and make sure they aren't getting blown apart by enemy counter-attacks.
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Default Re: Landspeeders! Are they really worth it?

yes, yes they are, however only the Tornado is actually worth it in reality IMO, an 80pt Asscannon acompanied by a HBolter that moves fast and is a skimmer? sign me up, 2 squads of 2 would be a nice addition to a 2000pt list IMO (3 of 1 is better IMO, but if you want an assault squad... )

they will make their points back if you use tham properly, a few turns of candlestine sniping should get you a fair few points, then run them in to try and rend a high points target and you make points back easy, not to mention the fear factor Asscannons inspire now is a powerful weapon.
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It isnt the wisest idea to take them against Tau though. A player with no kroot or gue'vesa will have nothing and I mean nothing below strength 5 in their army. Every single gun will be able to shoot down the landspeeder, even the burst cannon on a devilfish. Points are better spent elsewhere usually....

That doesnt mean its bad. Land Speeders are very nice if used right, not as tough as most SM units you have to be carefull but they can perform very well, particularly the tornado.
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It isnt the wisest idea to take them against Tau though. A player with no kroot or gue'vesa will have nothing and I mean nothing below strength 5 in their army. Every single gun will be able to shoot down the landspeeder, even the burst cannon on a devilfish. Points are better spent elsewhere usually....

That doesnt mean its bad. Land Speeders are very nice if used right, not as tough as most SM units you have to be carefull but they can perform very well, particularly the tornado.
I'd have to disagree, while they are extremely flimsy Vs Tau, they put out 7 shots that if they hit, will kill Tau infantry, and the AssCannon Rends Fishes very well, it also contests some of the Tau's unparralelled Fire-mobility.

you just have to be Extremely careful with them, the Asscannon Flush as I like to call it (3 single speeders) is very good at this, you group them together and try to only expose them to one or two (max) squads at a time, they should reasonably obliterate it and neuter any retaliation, this is however, not for the faint hearted :P
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Default Re: Landspeeders! Are they really worth it?

Yeah, but heavy bolter or multi- melta? fighting an army of nids bolter fightin tanks melta
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They are glorious, just pretend that they are ravagers and you are in.
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Yeah, but heavy bolter or multi- melta? fighting an army of nids bolter fightin tanks melta
there is no choice, HB+Ass Cannon is the only choice, Multimelta and Flamer are completely different purposes, whereas HB+Ass Cannon have the same purpose, and the Asscannon would do about as much to most tanks as a MM, especially to the heavier ones
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Default Re: Landspeeders! Are they really worth it?

Sadly yes, the only reason you might consider taking a multi-melta/heavy flamer is for nids. Multi to hit the big ones and flamer to keep the Guants off of you. All others you might as well just take the melta alone if your needing such a weapon.
All in all though the Landspeeder is a good light vehicle that is good for grabbing lone objectives or making lightning raids on enemy units.
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