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Can anyone help us build a 1500pt Space Wolf list with these troops?
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Old 20 Oct 2005, 21:18   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can anyone help us build a 1500pt Space Wolf list with these troops?

Hi

Got an army off eBay & some SELWG bring n buy, we are new into SM and want to do Space Wolves (about 1/2 of the troops are SW) but neesd siggestions on 1500 pt list to paint first - what we have is:

1 Commander
1 Medic? (I can convert if needs be)
5 Terminators, 1 with double flame thingy
Dreadnought with 2x Lascannon & Missiles
18 sword & pistol guys
20 bolter guys
2 Flamers
2 Meltas?
4 bikes, 1 with Plasma Gun
5 Jetpack guys, sergeant has Powerfist, need to know what else to arm 'em with.
1 "Long Fangs" lot - commander type, 2 missiles, 1 Lascannon
1 Baal Predator (old style tank - is that a twin autocannon up front?)

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Old 20 Oct 2005, 23:08   #2 (permalink)
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Just so ya know the medic is called an apothicary, the double flamer is a heavy flamer, the sword and pistol guys are blood claws, the bolter guys are tactical marines or for the Space Wolves they are grey hunters. The Jetpack guys are assault marines and yes that is a twin linked autocannon on the turret of the Baal Predator, though I think only Blood Angels can use that predator pattern.
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1 Commander
1 Medic? (I can convert if needs be)
The commander could be used as a Wolf Lord or a Battle Leader, while the "Medic" would probably be a Wolf Priest (they take the role of apothecaries in SW armies).

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Dreadnought with 2x Lascannon & Missiles
Do you have the Assault Cannon and DCCW? Venerable Dreadnaughts (which is what I think you should use this as, they're too good to pass up) tend to be much better in CC than shooting, and since they are so expensive it would be better to arm them for CC to maximize their effectiveness.

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20 bolter guys
Just to let you know those guys are Grey Hunters, and the way they are armed they cost an extra point.

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1 Baal Predator (old style tank - is that a twin autocannon up front?)
That is a twin Assault Cannon in the front, don't worry I do the same thing. SW cannot use this, sadly, so it will have to sit on the sidelines.

I would make a list using all of the troops, with at least the Bloodclaws riding Rhinos. Put the Meltas with the GHs, then the Flamers with the BCs along with the Wolf Lord and Priest (you'll have to drop one BC in each squad to make them fit in the transport). The rest, however, is pretty much personal choice. Some people like Long Fangs and some people like Bikes (I'm more of the latter), so experiment with each to find out your personal style. BTW a reminder about the Retinues rule and the Dreadnaught: if you do use him as Venerable, then make sure he's an HQ, that way you won't pay 300 points for 2 models when one can do the job.
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Old 21 Oct 2005, 07:14   #4 (permalink)
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That is a twin Assault Cannon in the front, don't worry I do the same thing. SW cannot use this, sadly, so it will have to sit on the sidelines.

I would make a list using all of the troops, with at least the Bloodclaws riding Rhinos. Put the Meltas with the GHs, then the Flamers with the BCs along with the Wolf Lord and Priest (you'll have to drop one BC in each squad to make them fit in the transport). The rest, however, is pretty much personal choice. Some people like Long Fangs and some people like Bikes (I'm more of the latter), so experiment with each to find out your personal style. BTW a reminder about the Retinues rule and the Dreadnaught: if you do use him as Venerable, then make sure he's an HQ, that way you won't pay 300 points for 2 models when one can do the job.
Thanks...I got it for my son (see the earlier Red Wolves post) and I posted this at work so could not recall all the specialist SW names. I think we will have to convert the Baal then, sitting on the sidelines is not an option ;-)

Questions are around army composition

- we thought 9 man squads, but maybe 7 for bolter guys (Grey HUnters)
- Terminators - are they useful (we have 5, 1 with flame thingy, 4 with storm bolters) - I can convert, what should we do - Assault Cannon?
- Jetpacks...he liked the idea of 'em, (I wanted him to get SoB as Valkyries - no dice ;-) ~ are they usefu, how best used - reserve, infiltrate etcl?
- Ven Dread vs ordinary Dread - don't have the bits to convert to a Ven Dread yet, but can proxy I'm sure - v expensive though!
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from the top (going from you latest set of q's)

9 man squads for the claws, so you can have a commander type in one of the squads, and a wolf guard leader in the other, loaded with an additional powerfist (going on the assumption of a 1500 pt army, with a vennie dread as an HQ). 10 man squads for the hunters. you want 'em packed fairly large in this case. maximise bolter fire and counter-charge potential

termies: not so good in a wolf army. too costly for us

jump-packers: way too costly for us. its much more cost efficient to get claws in a rhino or a drop pod, or something similar

vennie dread: you don't really need bits, not really. there's nothing that says what a vennie dread should look like. but as for costly...not a bit of it. he's tough, has waaay better stats than any other dread out there, and gives you a re-roll for first turn. he's a bargain
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